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Old 05-31-2007, 08:30 PM
Botchman Botchman is offline
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Default $4/ 180 man KQ clubs on the button

This is a $4.40 180 man with 13 left, I don't really have any reads on villian as he just got to table, but sensed a littl bit of weakness:

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MP2 (t12074)
CO (t22030)
Hero (t12742)
SB (t10728)
BB (t12902)
UTG (t15454)
MP1 (t10728)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t2400</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls t2400, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls t1600.

Flop: (t6700) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t2400</font>, Hero ???
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Old 05-31-2007, 08:59 PM
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Default Re: $4/ 180 man KQ clubs on the button

I would probably fold here pre flop to a utg raise , as played I guess you have to shove
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Old 05-31-2007, 09:22 PM
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Default Re: $4/ 180 man KQ clubs on the button

Fold preflop. As played, shove flop.
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Old 05-31-2007, 09:37 PM
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Default Re: $4/ 180 man KQ clubs on the button

nice flop. you can't really justify folding after calling preflop in the first place. If he has 99-JJ you're a favorite, if he has AK-AT he's going to fold. i don't see a reason not to push.
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Old 05-31-2007, 09:54 PM
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Default Re: $4/ 180 man KQ clubs on the button

Yeah I pretty much agree with you guys but I figured I might aswell see a flop as I had position and I know I can outplay 90% of the field in these postflop, I ended up insta-pushing and He called with 22 and his hand held. I just wanted to see what others thought [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 05-31-2007, 11:13 PM
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Default Re: $4/ 180 man KQ clubs on the button

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I know I can outplay 90% of the field in these postflop

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You have 14 BB's there simply isnt any outplaying postflop to be had.

That's your first mistake.

As others said, fold to a UTG raise PF, push flop.
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Old 05-31-2007, 11:24 PM
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Default Re: $4/ 180 man KQ clubs on the button

Good job by attacking the weakness by flat calling prelop. Now you must shove.
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Old 06-01-2007, 02:22 AM
plzleenowhammy plzleenowhammy is offline
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Default Re: $4/ 180 man KQ clubs on the button

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Yeah I pretty much agree with you guys but I figured I might aswell see a flop as I had position and I know I can outplay 90% of the field in these postflop, I ended up insta-pushing and He called with 22 and his hand held. I just wanted to see what others thought [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Post pt stats on your outplay percentage.

p.s. i honestly think calling the flop is better than pushing but i leave that to you.
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Old 06-01-2007, 03:29 AM
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Default Re: $4/ 180 man KQ clubs on the button

OP, you don't have enough chips play post flop poker, you're looking for a hand to jam with pf and KQ isn't good enough. You seem to contradict yourself [ QUOTE ]
I don't really have any reads on villian as he just got to table, but sensed a littl bit of weakness

[/ QUOTE ], so how the hell do you know he's weak and at what point did you think he was weak?

Calling off 20% of your stack with KQ against an unknown villain is pretty bad. Pf folding&gt;shoving&gt;calling. Against an unknown I'm reshoving with AQ+, 99+. As played the flop is a no brainer shove as you probably are the favorite unless you're up against a set, AA, KK, or QQ and even then you don't care cause you're so short.
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Old 06-01-2007, 11:14 AM
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Default Re: $4/ 180 man KQ clubs on the button

not enough chips in your stack to outplay anyone with after the flop, fold to a UTG raise, than shove the flop as played
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