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Old 05-31-2007, 04:52 PM
pkrPlayerBr pkrPlayerBr is offline
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Default NL50 - 2pairs on 3bet flop vs Unknowns

READS: NONE as this was my first orbit.

So I started fast by 3-betting vs the 3xbb raiser. I like to get a lag image as I sit down. This seems to be working in later orbits as I get played back more often with big hands.

The question here is what to think of this player leading out? Call or Push?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($41.55)
UTG ($52.50)
MP ($75.95)
Hero ($47.25)
Button ($52.75)
SB ($46.25)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $1.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5.5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $5, MP calls $4.

Flop: ($16.75) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $5</font>, MP folds, Hero ???
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Old 05-31-2007, 05:50 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - 2pairs on 3bet flop vs Unknowns

Up, help
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Old 05-31-2007, 05:54 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - 2pairs on 3bet flop vs Unknowns

Personally I would have folded KJ to a raise preflop. On the flop Id put in a substantial reraise, say $20-25. If he calls Id push the turn.
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Old 05-31-2007, 05:59 PM
Sam T. Sam T. is offline
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Default Re: NL50 - 2pairs on 3bet flop vs Unknowns

Muck pre-flop. How do you play Kxx or Jxx with any confidence?

Can't really put him on AT, but QQ is a real possibility. But even that would bet bigger. Make it $25 and shove the turn unless that does weird things with stax. I'm too lazy to do the math.
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Old 05-31-2007, 06:00 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - 2pairs on 3bet flop vs Unknowns

I would raise it to 15. If he pushed I would let it go. The only hand he may push with that I could win would be AK. Every other hand I would be far behid if not drawing dead. QQ / JJ / AT / KQ / 9Ts. Sine there´s no information I would fold to any reraise.
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Old 05-31-2007, 07:51 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - 2pairs on 3bet flop vs Unknowns

When you want to create that lag image do it with connectors or something that doesnt have such high negative implied odds.

Raise, raise, raise. Raise 20-25 on flop, get it in on any non a,q,10,9. Folding two pair in a 3 bet pot for less than 100bb is criminal.
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Old 05-31-2007, 08:19 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - 2pairs on 3bet flop vs Unknowns

fold pre flop...
u are going to raise the flop otherwise you have hit your hand on the flop and are now going to fold which would be stupid...
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Old 05-31-2007, 08:25 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - 2pairs on 3bet flop vs Unknowns

I pushed.

Thanks for the tips on 3betting... I think that's what I am looking for. More 3-betting information plus post flop play.

I have been trying different things, and sometimes they work, sometimes they don't.

Thanks once again.
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Old 05-31-2007, 08:26 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - 2pairs on 3bet flop vs Unknowns

fold PF
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