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Old 05-30-2007, 07:45 PM
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Default 2/4 Bluff the turn?

Effective stacks 400, 6-handed. My read on Villain is TAG.

One fold, I make it 16 with red nines, folded to BB who calls.

Flop Kc Jc 8s, 34 in the pot.

Villain bets 20, I make it 70, he calls.

Turn As, 174 in the pot.

Villain checks. Bet again here or just give up?
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Old 05-30-2007, 08:04 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 Bluff the turn?

Let it go, they are always drawing and never folding here. His range is much tighter out of BB.
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Old 05-30-2007, 08:10 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 Bluff the turn?

i like 125 or so
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Old 05-30-2007, 08:52 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 Bluff the turn?

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Effective stacks 400, 6-handed. My read on Villain is TAG.

One fold, I make it 16 with red nines, folded to BB who calls.

Flop Kc Jc 8s, 34 in the pot.

Villain bets 20, I make it 70, he calls.

Turn As, 174 in the pot.

Villain checks. Bet again here or just give up?

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he has k no kicker or a draw. big bet time. k no kick will fold and your beating a draw.
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Old 05-30-2007, 08:57 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 Bluff the turn?

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Let it go, they are always drawing and never folding here. His range is much tighter out of BB.

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What?

If he's always drawing, then hero should bet here everytime unless villian semi bluff raises with a decent frequency.

His flop call looks like a draw or a weak made hand. I like another bet.
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Old 05-30-2007, 09:00 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 Bluff the turn?

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Let it go, they are always drawing and never folding here. His range is much tighter out of BB.

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What?

If he's always drawing, then hero should bet here everytime unless villian semi bluff raises with a decent frequency.

His flop call looks like a draw or a weak made hand. I like another bet.

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if youre just gonna copy my advice...why post? (btw you can never go wrong copying my advice)
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Old 05-30-2007, 09:11 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 Bluff the turn?

Not sure I like this against TAGs but w/e, I think you should fire again on the turn.
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Old 05-30-2007, 09:12 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 Bluff the turn?

limon,

You're $.
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One of those drawing hands got made on the turn. I'm kind of posing this as a question, what weak hands is he calling out of BB?
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Old 05-30-2007, 09:15 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 Bluff the turn?

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Let it go, they are always drawing and never folding here. His range is much tighter out of BB.

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What?

If he's always drawing, then hero should bet here everytime unless villian semi bluff raises with a decent frequency.

His flop call looks like a draw or a weak made hand. I like another bet.

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if youre just gonna copy my advice...why post? (btw you can never go wrong copying my advice)

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Damn good to see some limon humor/truth. This is awsome.
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Old 05-30-2007, 09:56 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 Bluff the turn?

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limon,

You're $.
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One of those drawing hands got made on the turn. I'm kind of posing this as a question, what weak hands is he calling out of BB?

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guess it depends on what the poster means by tag and how th "tag" guy views us. nowadays tag seem to mean not insane and everyone views themselves as tag so for $12 against a bring in w/ 400 stax id guess his calling range is really big. qt is part of that range but only a small part. that combined w/ the check on the turn lead me to believe we can get a better hand to fold/worse hand to call wayy more often than than is necessary to BET.
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