Big draw gets a mixed blessing on the turn

ThePlan · #1 05-30-2007, 03:33 PM

Villain is 25/16. He's smoothcalled with 2pair on flop before, then checkraised the turn.

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UTG ($207.20)
MP ($87.70)
Hero ($208.45)
SB ($202)
BB ($245.30)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to $8, 1 fold, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($17) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $12, BB calls $12.

Turn: ($41) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $25, BB raises to $75, Hero

mastin1 · #2 05-30-2007, 03:39 PM

How often do we expect to see trips w/ a redraw? KcJx maybe?

I can't really find a fold here.

*NL newbie

tarheeljks · #3 05-30-2007, 03:44 PM

nasty spot. any ideas on how he would play a combo draw?

AE6 · #4 05-30-2007, 03:46 PM

what kind of flop had villain previously slowplayed two pair on? i gotta think it would be suicide to c/c 2pair or better on a flop as drawy as this one. also given that he very rarely has a flush here (we pretty much have to put him on the royal) i think i'm all in.

ThePlan · #5 05-30-2007, 03:50 PM

he slowplayed on Q 10 4 flop with Q10, ended up busting KK

AE6 · #6 05-30-2007, 04:08 PM

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he slowplayed on Q 10 4 flop with Q10, ended up busting KK

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.....was there a flushdraw on the flop?

wrkingtobegreat · #7 05-30-2007, 04:12 PM

*grunch* Push? Maybe call and check raise river? We might be behind but I dont see folding at any point to be +EV

ThePlan · #8 05-30-2007, 04:13 PM

rainbow flop on the Q10 hand

ThePlan · #9 05-30-2007, 04:15 PM

What range are we putting the villain on?

tarheeljks · #10 05-30-2007, 04:22 PM

i think a fh is a strong possibility. was the previous slowplay on a draw heavy flop? it is more likely that he flopped 2p w/AJ/JT than that he decided to float w/something like KcJs.

i don't think i could lay this down, but i'm very concerned that we are drawing dead or only have 2 outs. what do you believe we're ahead of? all i see is AKo (Kc), a lower sc?