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Old 05-30-2007, 09:24 AM
roo400 roo400 is offline
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Default Hand vs bel0w

100+9 MTT, still way out of the money.
UTG is Bel0w
I read bel0w as an extreme laggy player capable of bluffing a lot. I haven't been that agressive at this table, people just gave me their chips. With that said, I don't think he raises light UTG with his image/stack. I just never knew what to do in this hand. I'll put the hand in steps.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP3 (t4620)
CO (t4550)
Button (t4985)
Hero (t19525)
BB (t1520)
UTG (t6030)
UTG+1 (t5220)
MP1 (t14775)
MP2 (t7310)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t580</font>, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, Hero

What's the best line here? Raise to get it in? or call?
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Old 05-30-2007, 09:34 AM
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Default Re: Hand vs bel0w

Since he only has 30BBs, I don't mind raising to 1850 with the plan to call a shove here. If he flats your raise and leads on an A-less/K-less flop, then ditch hand. If he flats your raise and leads when an A or K flops, feel free to get it in. If he flats and then checks on any board, I'm probably shoving.
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Old 05-30-2007, 09:37 AM
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Default Re: Hand vs bel0w

He has position on me. I am SB
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Old 05-30-2007, 09:47 AM
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Default Re: Hand vs bel0w

I have no clue how this stakes MTT actually play,but what about something like flatt call and crai any flop?
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Old 05-30-2007, 09:49 AM
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Default Re: Hand vs bel0w

I raise to 2200, call allin (obv) and push any flop.

Not too much explanation needed really, raise enough preflop so that you can push any flop. In reality, below is probably pushing or folding pre so flop shouldnt really matter.
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Old 05-30-2007, 09:50 AM
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Default Re: Hand vs bel0w

i prefer raising enough to give the illusion of fold equity. this is kinda standard against any good thinking mtt player, let alone bel0w
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Old 05-30-2007, 09:50 AM
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He has position on me. I am SB

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Ah. Well my general sentiments still stand. I like re-raising to about 2K pre-flop with the plan to call any shove and to shove any flop if he flats.

I hate the idea to flat-call PF with the intention of doing something goofy like CRing AI on any flop. I feel like this gives a good player like Below way too many easy ways to beat us. If you don't like my suggested line, I honestly think the next best thing is to flat call PF and check any flop and play a small pot OOP. Feel free to CRAI when an A flops. Probably check/call down if a K does.
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Old 05-30-2007, 10:01 AM
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i prefer raising enough to give the illusion of fold equity. this is kinda standard against any good thinking mtt player, let alone bel0w

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I thinking player will realise that we are raising an UTG raiser from the SB with a big stack, I think he will realise he doesn't have any FE whatever we raise to.

Surely we might as well make things as easy as possible for ourselves on flop if villian decides to call by having ~ PSB left.
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Old 05-30-2007, 10:11 AM
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Default Re: Hand vs bel0w

you really don't want to put yourself at the disadvantage of having to play Bel0w OOP. raise to 2100 and get them chips in.
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Old 05-30-2007, 10:40 AM
NHFunkii NHFunkii is offline
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Default Re: Hand vs bel0w

standard 3bet
below is aggro enough that even if he's not 'raising light' he's still raising a pretty wide range from utg
also, read matt matros's article on cardplayer on 3betting AK (I actually don't remember much about the article other than thinking it was good so it might not be applicable here)
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