Live 5/10 multiway underfull, hand plays out oddly postflop

[DrewOnTilt]

Hi all! This is a hand from a live 5/10 game this past weekend. I normally play limit holdem, so the majority of my poker experience comes from that flavor of poker. My limit game turned really tight, so I moved to a nearby no limit game that looked juicy.

We had a full game but 4 of the players were on a food break and then one stacked off, leaving us 5-handed. At the time that this hand went down we had been playing shorthanded for about an hour.

The UTG raiser seemed a decent, tight player. He had not gotten out of line at all postflop. He had a tendency to pull Hollywood acts when betting, which I found to be very annoying.

The LAG coldcaller was very loose and liked to play big pots. He RARELY folded to probe bets or continuation bets; in one hand where I led the flop and turn for half pot bets, he commented that he was "going to keep calling if you keep betting that weakly." He was in the game for 3-4 buyins when I sat down, but then went on a huge rush. He took a big pot from me with the nut flush against my 2nd nut flush, giving him a big stack. He played way too many hands and gave tons of action; on at least two occasions he called allin on a draw when he was not getting the odds, and was quite steamed after one hand where another player correctly read the LAG as being on a draw and then shoved allin on the turn with Ace high. The LAG called with 8 high and a straight draw, and the other player's Ace high held up.

That said, the LAG wasn't totally retarded postflop. I won a big pot when I posted behind the button and saw a cheap flop with 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and flopped the ass end of a straight plus a flush draw. The LAG made an overbet, I smoothcalled, and a shortstack behind us called as well. The turn put a four card straight on the board, the LAG bet the pot, I shoved allin, and the shortstack quickly called. The LAG tanked, turned over the flopped no-longer-nut straight, and then finally mucked. He stated that he didn't want to risk his big stack on what was likely a chop with one player and a loss to the other. The fold here was debatable, but it showed to me that he was capable of analyzing a big hand with fairly decent accuracy.

On to the hand in question.

The max buyin in this game is $1500. Effective stacks for the 3 players involved in the hand were roughly $3000.

The tight UTG player raised to $60, the LAG called, another weak player called in middle position, and I called $50 from the big blind with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] - a debatable call but my odds were decent, my relative position was good, and I felt that I could count on the LAG to build a big pot if we both happened to catch.

The flop came 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], checked around. What the hell? This was the first flop check-through of a raised pot at this table in some time.

Turn 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] giving me top pair and the nut flush draw, albeit on a paired board. I fired a $200 bet into a $270 pot. The tight UTG player went into his Hollywood mode, as he was prone to do when he had a decent hand. He FINALLY just called, the LAG called behind him rather quickly, and the weak MP player folded.

River 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], giving me a weak full house. There was $900 in the pot. I was totally lost. Mr. Hollywood behind me gave me the impression that he could at least beat the 7, and the LAG hadn't gone away either. What do I do here? Bet/fold to Mr. Hollywood? Check/call a bet from the LAG? I'm lost, help?

EDIT: edited to fix pot sizes.

[soah]

I see no value in betting. If you can get away with a very small blocking bet then you might want to do that, otherwise check and probably fold if either of them bets very big. No one can really bluff at this pot since it seems pretty obvious that there are multiple full houses out there.

[ryanghall]

Looks like a potential check/call of a reasonable bet. UTG tight player could perhaps have K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

The lag could have a bunch of hands. If he called quick, he could have some sort of missed draw as well.

Seems like c/c is best.

Ryan

[DrewOnTilt]

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I see no value in betting. If you can get away with a very small blocking bet then you might want to do that, otherwise check and probably fold if either of them bets very big. No one can really bluff at this pot since it seems pretty obvious that there are multiple full houses out there.

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Against this lineup, with the LAG in the game, I had stopped trying blocking bets, because they did not work.

[KingGordy]

Easy check. I can't decide if calling or folding to a bet is better, depends on the bet sizing, reads etc. I'm sort of leaning towards fold although I don't have much experience in live games.

[terp]

nice description of players and history.

i'd check and make a decision. this can really skew so differently depending on action that that's the best plan i can have now

[DrewOnTilt]

Thanks for the replies.

I ultimately checked. Mr. Hollywood then went into his acting routine and spent four and a half days counting out $1000 in green chips before finally tossing two purples onto the felt.

The LAG then went into a bit of a Hollywood routine of his own, and then shoved allin for about $2000 more. I considered launching my own acting session and making both of these guys watch me hem and haw, but then I remembered that I am not a sack of [censored] and folded quickly.

Mr. Hollywood then went back into his Screen Actor's Guild routine. Does anyone want to beat the holy hell out of this guy yet? I sure did. He finally folded. The LAG later told me that he had a 7, and that he didn't feel that he could just call with a weak boat.