35 turbo Retarded AK hand

[jonkeponke]

3rd hand, villian 3bet someone on 2nd hand (gambler's roulette probability obv) and is a big loser on sharkscope. No info otherwise. Cold-caller has been donking around the first two hands.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP3 (t1950)
CO (t1520)
Hero (t1470)
SB (t1480)
BB (t1480)
UTG (t1480)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1120)
MP2 (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls t20, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to t240</font>, CO calls t240, <font color="#CC3333">Hero</font>

Is shoving here ever +EV?

[ger664]

Intial raiser is opening quite loose here and I do not think CO cold calls here with AA/KK. The cold caller gives you enough dead money to shove here. If limper has limped with AA/KK I make a note on him.

Shoving here is EV.

If someone is making a 12x raise here there probably either retarded or drunk (both?). The problem with this is that CO most likely has a similiar hand to you, eliminating some outs.

For some reason whenever I see a play like this it almost always seems to be with a small pair and they almost always call. I opt to call here alot as I can play the stack a donk game when he c-bets the K-high board for the pot on the flop. This also hopefully gets the CO to commit a few chips if you both connect.

So I think calling is greater EV/less risk than the shove.

[fishesass]

Calling here gives MP1 good odds to play. 4-way (even 3-way) with AK sucks.
Pushing will get you HU most of the time. You might even take it down PF.

[AMT]

with your reads on these 2 players id shove.