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Old 05-28-2007, 03:05 PM
MooBot3000 MooBot3000 is offline
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Default QQ multiway action flop

CO is TAG, BB is kinda donkish

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $327.70
BB: $84.65
<font color="black">Hero (UTG): $127.00</font>
MP: $131.55
CO: $65.65
BTN: $29.25

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $4.00</font>, MP folds, CO calls $4.00, BTN folds, SB calls $3.50, BB calls $3.00

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($16) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $12.00</font>, <font color="red">CO raises all-in to $61.65</font>, SB folds, BB calls $61.65, Hero ???
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Old 05-28-2007, 04:23 PM
Bill Smith Bill Smith is offline
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Default Re: QQ multiway action flop

What's your image?

The only hands for which CO's play makes sense is AJs and AQ/KQ-spades, unless you've got a read that he's tricky and may have been trapping with AA/KK. If BB is the kind of donk that would go this far with KJ, I think I put it in realizing he's probably also the kind of donk that's in there with K3 or something.
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Old 05-28-2007, 08:40 PM
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Default Re: QQ multiway action flop

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What's your image?

The only hands for which CO's play makes sense is AJs and AQ/KQ-spades, unless you've got a read that he's tricky and may have been trapping with AA/KK. If BB is the kind of donk that would go this far with KJ, I think I put it in realizing he's probably also the kind of donk that's in there with K3 or something.

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My image is pretty laggy, I cbet close to 100% of the time even 3 way...

BB would probably stack off with KJ or a draw or 3x obv.

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Old 05-28-2007, 08:42 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: QQ multiway action flop

People need to show this hand some love. I have no [censored] clue what to do here.
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Old 05-28-2007, 08:44 PM
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Default Re: QQ multiway action flop

i'll fold to BB's coldcall.

however neither of them have fullbuyins so they definitely suck. that would lean me to reshoving, which can't be too bad. you're gonna see FD's and random PP's here a lot i think.
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Old 05-29-2007, 01:09 AM
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Default Re: QQ multiway action flop

This is ia tough spot, imo, because you're often ahead, but not by a whole lot. Occationally someone has a 3 or even JJ/KK/AA and you're trailing badly.

I'm pretty sure that even the small pot odds your being offered in a 3-way pot merits a call though.
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Old 05-29-2007, 01:43 AM
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Default Re: QQ multiway action flop

fold. BB has you toast. co can have a wide range here (3x, AJ, FD, PP&lt;JJ) but there isn't a hand that will coldcall oop that isn't begging for you to overcall.

my guess, A3s or JJ for BB.

interesting hand though.

edit: just saw ur read that bb is donkish. imo this makes a 3 more likely, but occasionally (after you've folded) expect to see him have AJ and c/o NFD or something. just puke and make a note in that case.
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Old 05-29-2007, 01:48 AM
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Default Re: QQ multiway action flop

I think this is a pretty easy fold. Why is the BB check/cold calling an all-in with you left to act?
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Old 05-29-2007, 01:51 AM
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Default Re: QQ multiway action flop

poooosh (its like 20 more right?) and I feel fine about it. I'm not worried about the CO having a 3 really b/c he is a tag and no one has quads. the donk i'm worried about but the donk is, well a donk and shows up with spades and Jx here
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Old 05-29-2007, 01:13 PM
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Default Re: QQ multiway action flop

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poooosh (its like 20 more right?) and I feel fine about it. I'm not worried about the CO having a 3 really b/c he is a tag and no one has quads. the donk i'm worried about but the donk is, well a donk and shows up with spades and Jx here

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BB's call is what threw me off guard. He only has 20 left...was it just a misclick? Is there anything we can read in him just calling and not shoving his ~20 more?

a) He's just a donk, donk's do stupid things like just call with 20 left behind
b) He's a donk, he's fishing for an overcall, duh
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