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#1
05-25-2007, 06:22 PM
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50NL, river value problem
CO is 60/13/1
SB is 81/17/3 Should I shove or just call this river? I'm pretty sure SB is siting on Kx or a flush here as a boat would shove. CO kinda concerns me though, especially given his flop flatcall and low aggression. Then again he's an idiot. Everest Poker 50NL 6 players Stack sizes: UTG: $49.25 HERO: $53.48 MP: $33.25 SB: $34.53 BUTTON: $32.10 CO: $79.22 Pre-flop: HERO has (2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]) (6 players): 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $1.75</font>, 1 fold, SB calls for $1.50, HERO calls for $1.25 Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players, $5.25) <font color="#cc0000">SB bets $0.50</font>, HERO calls for $0.50, CO calls for $0.50 Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players, $6.75) <font color="#cc0000">SB bets $0.50</font>, <font color="#cc0000">HERO raises to $4.50</font>, CO calls for $4.50, SB calls for $4 River: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players, $20.25) SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">HERO bets $10</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $20</font>, SB calls for $20, HERO shoves or calls? 
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#2
05-25-2007, 06:42 PM
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Re: 50NL, river value problem
Raise the flop. You have a great hand, but many hands will kill your hand/action. That is a terrible flop to slowplay, any K or Q or fd or sd is going to pay off a raise. Raise more on the turn. Once you get to the river and you hit your dreamcard, you start worrying about if you are beat. Push river and it is not close.
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#3
05-25-2007, 06:44 PM
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Re: 50NL, river value problem
Shove please. Both of them are fish and could easily have a flush or Kx. I would've expected him to raise somewhere with KQ, and if he slowplayed it, just chalk it up to a cooler. But not shoving here is giving up a ton of value.
By the way, you need to raise the flop and raise the turn bigger. Everest has a Bet Pot button, just mash it. You also need to bet bigger on the river. $16 seems fine.
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#4
05-25-2007, 06:49 PM
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Re: 50NL, river value problem
Agree you should have raised the flop, what would you have done if third club fell on the turn?
On the river I would say you should shove, the only hand I would say might have you beat would be KQ from the CO, I have no idea what the small blind is doing on the river, check-calling a bet and a raise, of course if you think he is savvy enough he might be flatting calling with a monster to induce a reraise from you. Confusing really.
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#5
05-25-2007, 06:51 PM
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Re: 50NL, river value problem
Okay thanks. I'm probably thinking too result oriented here [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I shoved and got coolered by CO's KQo, wanted to make sure it's not spewage to shove on his minraise.
I didn't raise the flop as I figured that flop most likely hit the PF raiser and I'd let him raise it for me. Is this terrible? I agree that my betsizes are off on the turn and river.
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#6
05-25-2007, 07:18 PM
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Re: 50NL, river value problem
[ QUOTE ]
I didn't raise the flop as I figured that flop most likely hit the PF raiser [/ QUOTE ] Then you should of course raise the flop since he is very likely to call. If pf raiser calls your raise on the flop it most likely means he has a king or maybe even something like TT/JJ/QQ (given his stats). After his call on your raise on flop i would just shove the turn, a player with the stats the pf raiser had will _allways_ call a shove with a king and might even do it with less tbh.
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