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Old 05-25-2007, 12:39 PM
king_of_drafts king_of_drafts is offline
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FullTiltPoker Game #2506126826: Table Sun City (6 max) - $5/$10 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:23:55 ET - 2007/05/25
Seat 1: HAAANH ($2,022.50)
Seat 2: JediPokerTrix ($1,029)
Seat 3: DidEyeDoThat ($113.50)
Seat 4: pokachump ($1,721.25)
Seat 5: McMaaaaath ($970)
Seat 6: uisageezer ($1,156.50)
uisageezer posts the small blind of $5
HAAANH posts the big blind of $10
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HAAANH [3c 5c]
JediPokerTrix raises to $35
DidEyeDoThat has 15 seconds left to act
DidEyeDoThat folds
pokachump folds
McMaaaaath folds
uisageezer calls $30
HAAANH has 15 seconds left to act
HAAANH calls $25
*** FLOP *** [Jh Ah Kc]
uisageezer checks
HAAANH checks
JediPokerTrix checks
*** TURN *** [Jh Ah Kc] [4c]
uisageezer bets $105
HAAANH has 15 seconds left to act
HAAANH raises to $300
JediPokerTrix folds
uisageezer calls $195
*** RIVER *** [Jh Ah Kc 4c] [Js]
uisageezer checks
HAAANH....

Villain is kinda crappy reg. After he called the turn I put him on KJ or AJ and was ready to shove river but then the jack came...I think he would've checked the turn with any lone pair because that is the default msnl crappy reg play.

Obviously my hand looks a lot like a draw to a decent player, but I don't think villain is good enough at hand reading and wouldn't be able to rule out a lot of made hands. I also am pretty sure I should've made it about 350 instead of 300

It's actually very possible I would check this flop with QT, I guess...meh, criticize away.

EDIT: Do any of you just fold preflop? I've been tightening up a TON preflop and it's really helping the swings to flatten out.
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Old 05-25-2007, 12:49 PM
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Fold preflop...I don't think this is the turn to raise...I usually call...you would hate if he comes back over the top on the turn. Due to your description of villain I check the river because I doubt he folds two pair.
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Old 05-25-2007, 01:49 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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wtf are you doing raising the turn if you don't think he has a one-pair hand here?
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Old 05-25-2007, 02:09 PM
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i dont see a twopair hand checking this flop
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Old 05-25-2007, 02:13 PM
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i dont see a twopair hand checking this flop

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It is possible he planned a c/r on the flop
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Old 05-25-2007, 02:24 PM
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i dont see a twopair hand checking this flop

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It is possible he planned a c/r on the flop

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Definitely.
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Old 05-25-2007, 02:55 PM
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wtf are you doing raising the turn if you don't think he has a one-pair hand here?

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Yeah I came of really jumbled and confused in original post. Forget this hand I'm pretty sure I know exactly what I did wrong.
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Old 05-25-2007, 03:03 PM
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How does somebody with 1100 posts not know how to use a converter???
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Old 05-25-2007, 03:11 PM
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i think his hand looks a lot like a flush draw or pair+flush draw on the turn. unfortunately if the pair card was a J he's not folding and if it was an A then he now has AAJJK, which i'm not sure if he's folding if you think he's bad, especially since your hand could pretty easily be a missed draw.

if you think he'll fold Ax then i think shoving is good. otherwise, there is 800 in the stacks and 700 in the pot. what about a bet of 250? it doesn't have to work very often at all and we're going to fold out all of the no-pair flush draws and also might fold out Kx. he could read us as having an A/J and trying to milk a little more value from Kx or Ax. i don't think it's going to induce a bluff c/r very often. meta-wise it also lets provides balance to our little vbets for later.
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Old 05-25-2007, 07:21 PM
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Geezer is THE worst regular in the 5-10 game - by FAR. He is a giant calling station, and that is the problem w/ your turn raise - it has no fold equity. Against some guys you can't "get creative," and you need a real hand - he is one of those guys. I fold turn. As played, check river. He loves to look people up w/ marginal hands.

Here is a great example (what is he calling w/ on the flop??????)

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $5/$10 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $1,195.05
<u>Hero (BB): $1,010.00</u>
<u>UTG: $995.00</u>
BTN: $405.30

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $30.00</font>, UTG calls $30.00, 2 folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($70) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $50.00</font>, UTG calls $50.00

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($170) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $135.00</font>, UTG calls $135.00

<font color="black">River:</font> ($440) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $350.00</font>, UTG calls $350.00

Pot Size: $1,140.00 ($2 Rake)

UTG had T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (two pair, Tens and Sixes) and LOST (-$565.00)
Hero had J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a full house, Jacks full of Sixes) and WON (+$573.00)
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