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Old 05-24-2007, 03:11 PM
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Default Daily 50 Grand, KK in LP, ugly board

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Button (t3500)
SB (t3130)
BB (t2990)
UTG (t2970)
UTG+1 (t2970)
MP1 (t2970)
MP2 (t3000)
MP3 (t2970)
Hero (t3060)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t80</font>, Button calls t80, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: (t190) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t140</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t300</font>, Hero calls t160.

Turn: (t790) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t320</font>, Hero calls t320.

River: (t1430) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t440</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t1870

Thoughts? This was super early in the tourney so no real reads. The river seems obvious (he almost never has a bluff here given previous streets, and he's not VBing a worse hand), but do you give more action on the flop or turn?
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Old 05-24-2007, 05:24 PM
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Default Re: Daily 50 Grand, KK in LP, ugly board

3 bet flop to 1350 call shove
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Old 05-24-2007, 05:28 PM
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Default Re: Daily 50 Grand, KK in LP, ugly board

I shove that turn
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Old 05-24-2007, 05:32 PM
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Default Re: Daily 50 Grand, KK in LP, ugly board

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I shove that turn

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really? so you guys are both basically like, zomg overpair, lets do this?
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Old 05-24-2007, 05:33 PM
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Default Re: Daily 50 Grand, KK in LP, ugly board

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I shove that turn

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really? so you guys are both basically like, zomg overpair, lets do this?

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more like if he had a real hand he'd bet much stronger to protect it vs 2 flushdraws and 3 to str on the board. I think he's drawing more often then not so shut him out.
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Old 05-24-2007, 05:34 PM
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Default Re: Daily 50 Grand, KK in LP, ugly board

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I shove that turn

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really? so you guys are both basically like, zomg overpair, lets do this?

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more like if he had a real hand he'd bet much stronger to protect it vs 2 flushdraws and 3 to str on the board. I think he's drawing more often then not so shut him out.

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yeah i'll buy that about his turn bet. what would you do if he bet like 600 on the turn?
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Old 05-24-2007, 05:55 PM
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Default Re: Daily 50 Grand, KK in LP, ugly board

Looks like a big drawing hand for villian. You could have re-raise him on the flop. Then shove the turn.

seems like the A7 of diamonds.
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Old 05-24-2007, 06:49 PM
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Default Re: Daily 50 Grand, KK in LP, ugly board

With a blank on the turn, I'd definitely push, since unless he's got a 78 of diamonds, he'll back down. Definitely a drawing hand that could have been squashed there, although you may have been against a low set, which would make his betting make sense. If you read him for the type to call a raise w/ low pair, then 3 bet the flop, then fold if he comes back at you. Just my thought's on it.
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Old 05-24-2007, 06:54 PM
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Default Re: Daily 50 Grand, KK in LP, ugly board

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I shove that turn

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really? so you guys are both basically like, zomg overpair, lets do this?

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more like if he had a real hand he'd bet much stronger to protect it vs 2 flushdraws and 3 to str on the board. I think he's drawing more often then not so shut him out.

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yeah i'll buy that about his turn bet. what would you do if he bet like 600 on the turn?

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prob call and c/f riv if he bets big and blank comes.
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Old 05-24-2007, 07:21 PM
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Default Re: Daily 50 Grand, KK in LP, ugly board

You played it like you had an over pair, i have a feeling your beat here. Its early in a tourny and you have to let a hand like this go. Your check on the turn showed weakness, if he was drawing to a straight, you gave him a free card, but he decide to bet, thinking you might be weak and he might take it down right there.
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