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Old 05-24-2007, 03:22 AM
qetou qetou is offline
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Default nl100 - bottom set on a scary flop. easy fold?

Anyone plays here for stacks? Not sure what I beat except for AKs and KKs, but would he push with those? Looks like he has JJ or AA.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $99.00
BB: $101.00
UTG: $133.65
MP: $274.55
<font color="black">Hero (CO): $98.50</font>
BTN: $96.00

<font color="black">Reads: </font><font color="blue">villain is unknown</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $4.00</font>, Hero calls $4.00, 3 folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($9.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP bets $5.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $15.00</font>, <font color="red">MP raises all-in to $270.55</font>, Hero ...

Pot Size: $295.05 ($1.95 Rake)
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Old 05-24-2007, 03:25 AM
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Default Re: nl100 - bottom set on a scary flop. easy fold?

what the hell, its like every other thread is about what to do with sets on the flop, this is what you do with sets on the flop: GET THE [censored] MONEY IN
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Old 05-24-2007, 03:27 AM
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Default Re: nl100 - bottom set on a scary flop. easy fold?

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what the hell, its like every other thread is about what to do with sets on the flop, this is what you do with sets on the flop: GET THE [censored] MONEY IN

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ok that sounds cool. his hand range please?
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Old 05-24-2007, 03:28 AM
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Default Re: nl100 - bottom set on a scary flop. easy fold?

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what the hell, its like every other thread is about what to do with sets on the flop, this is what you do with sets on the flop: GET THE [censored] MONEY IN

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Old 05-24-2007, 03:35 AM
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Default Re: nl100 - bottom set on a scary flop. easy fold?

If he has AA or JJ it's a cooler, face it. Unlikely that he hit a flush there, looks more like AxKs(Qs) or maybe even AxJx - however, if he has a flush there, you still got about 30% chance of improving to FH.

I don't really like those scenarios either, quite read-based as well.

Correct me, if I am mistaken!
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Old 05-24-2007, 03:43 AM
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Default Re: nl100 - bottom set on a scary flop. easy fold?

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what the hell, its like every other thread is about what to do with sets on the flop, this is what you do with sets on the flop: GET THE [censored] MONEY IN

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ok that sounds cool. his hand range please?

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Im gonna assume that villain is unknown since you didn't provide stats.

As for his range goes I would say that something like this:

K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Tx, K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Jx, K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Qx, K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Ax, AK, AJ, AA, JJ.

IMO it's most likely that he has a strong draw and want's to pick up some FE with a push.

Get the money in please.
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Old 05-24-2007, 03:44 AM
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Default Re: nl100 - bottom set on a scary flop. easy fold?

I dont think he has AJs/AJo given his small cbet and push to a raise, sounds more like AA/JJ/AKs or a made flush and we are so behind this range. I think we are still behind if I add AJ.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

24,750 games 0.005 secs 4,950,000 games/sec

Board: As Js 6s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 52.176% 50.81% 01.36% 12576 337.50 { 6d6h }
Hand 1: 47.824% 46.46% 01.36% 11499 337.50 { AA, KcKs, KdKs, KhKs, JJ, AJs, KsQs, KsJs, KsTs, QsJs, JsTs, Ts9s, 9s8s, AcKs, AdKs, AhKs, AJo }


Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

15,840 games 0.005 secs 3,168,000 games/sec

Board: As Js 6s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 35.985% 35.13% 00.85% 5565 135.00 { 6d6h }
Hand 1: 64.015% 63.16% 00.85% 10005 135.00 { AA, KcKs, KdKs, KhKs, JJ, KsQs, KsJs, KsTs, QsJs, JsTs, Ts9s, 9s8s, AcKs, AdKs, AhKs }
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Old 05-24-2007, 03:59 AM
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Default Re: nl100 - bottom set on a scary flop. easy fold?

IMO there is no way he would make this play with the nuts. You have to take out the made flushes with K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

As for scenario 1 goes - Would you fold?
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