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Old 05-23-2007, 01:42 AM
cougar62 cougar62 is offline
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Default 6.50 Stars: Can I fold a full house?

I really think villian has me on the river, but can I fold this. And BTW I know the flop re-raise was just a bit aggro but it was a gut response to what I thought was a bluff. Given that is the rest of my line ok?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG (t1480)
UTG+1 (t1540)
MP1 (t1660)
Hero (t1470)
MP3 (t1450)
CO (t1920)
Button (t1490)
SB (t1060)
BB (t1430)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls t30, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (t75) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t60</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t120</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t300</font>, BB calls t180.

Turn: (t675) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t240</font>, BB calls t240.

River: (t1155) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t860 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t2015
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Old 05-23-2007, 02:00 AM
Acey Acey is offline
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Default Re: 6.50 Stars: Can I fold a full house?

So many hands he can have here, a 4 is highly likely, allthough J seems most likely. Bad spot but i'd never fold here.

Flop you check/fold
Turn you bet t400
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Old 05-23-2007, 02:12 AM
DevinLake DevinLake is offline
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Default Re: 6.50 Stars: Can I fold a full house?

that hand is identical to a hand I played early in an FTOPS event. I folded and didn't feel bad about it. But, I dunno at a 6.50 I think they show up with random junk enough to call.
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Old 05-23-2007, 02:30 AM
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Default Re: 6.50 Stars: Can I fold a full house?

I fold to the mini-raise on the flop
this is rarely a bluff, and we risk a lot by re-raising
I push turn, or bet more like t375-400 so we have t700 to push on the river
I call, because I put him on a 4

people love to mini-raise big-hands at this level
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Old 05-23-2007, 03:31 AM
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Default Re: 6.50 Stars: Can I fold a full house?

your flop play is really bad, why are you putting so much money in the pot?

once you make your boat on the turn, bet more, youre missing out on serious value with 7s full here.

on the river....whatever
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Old 05-23-2007, 04:27 AM
ger664 ger664 is offline
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Default Re: 6.50 Stars: Can I fold a full house?

I would check behind with that flop. I think that had you done that your river would have been a fold. Given the pot size and the number of hands that have a 4 I make a call here but they always have the jack.
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Old 05-23-2007, 10:05 AM
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Default Re: 6.50 Stars: Can I fold a full house?

Check behind on the flop, as played bet more on the turn, villain obviously likes his hand and that seven isn't going to slow him down at all. River I probably call it because his line looks like a four, and because zeebo tells us to.
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Old 05-23-2007, 06:01 PM
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Default Re: 6.50 Stars: Can I fold a full house?

I can't see a check behind on the flop there. Too many Turncards that'll get you in trouble. I'd just call the minraise for not bloating up the pot and check/fold turn unimproved.
In this particular hand you really can't fold the river. Against a random hand you have about 90% equity.
In addition to the numerous 4x hands he'd probably check minraise any pocket on that flop.
I really couldn't find a fold here.
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Old 05-23-2007, 11:11 PM
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Default Re: 6.50 Stars: Can I fold a full house?

Fold preflop, fold to the flop miniraise, bet &gt;2/3 the pot on the turn(this is most important, why are you trying to bleed this guy? He showed a lot of strength on the flop and the turn wasn't a scare card), call the river.

Bet that turn much, much harder.
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Old 05-24-2007, 12:05 AM
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Default Re: 6.50 Stars: Can I fold a full house?

After the min raise on the flop, you gotta see him holding the 4 and let it go there. As played I am leading much harder on that turn and calling the river expecting to see that four and taking the pot down.
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