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Old 05-23-2007, 01:27 AM
carnivalhobo carnivalhobo is offline
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Default 3/6 turn b/3b bluff

i should be about 24/17/3 in villains view, in my first orbit he 3bet my btn open with QQ and called a shove on a 9Ax 2 heart flop.

He is 19/15/5.2 over 521 hands, and seems decent so far although his play with QQ against me seems suspect.

Is this a trainwreck? i chose the turn size on purpose, but that doesnt mean i think its good, let me hear it.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $3/$6 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

<font color="black">Hero (SB): $852.80</font>
BB: $465.50
UTG: $528.75
MP: $1,730.75
CO: $121.35
BTN: $773.85

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $21.00</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $18.00, BB folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($48) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP bets $30.00</font>, Hero calls $30.00

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($108) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $45.00</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $138.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $801.80</font>
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Old 05-23-2007, 01:34 AM
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Default Re: 3/6 turn b/3b bluff

it's gonna be pretty hard for villain to call with 1 pair, so i guess i like it.
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Old 05-23-2007, 01:50 AM
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Default Re: 3/6 turn b/3b bluff

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it's gonna be pretty hard for villain to call with 1 pair, so i guess i like it.

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While the above makes sense, I would be far less likely to do this against a villain who recently stacked of with QQ on an Axx board. Obviously, I make plays like this from time to time, but this doesn't seem like the right villain to do it against.
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Old 05-23-2007, 02:05 AM
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your bluff is way too big
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Old 05-23-2007, 02:08 AM
Merged Range Merged Range is offline
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Default Re: 3/6 turn b/3b bluff

I don't mind the reasoning behind the bluff but like PBJaxx I have a few issues with it.

First off, as mentioned above him stacking off very lightly against you in the past makes me a little less enthousiastic about the play.

Second, the stacks are a little akward for a turn push, although I like bluffing that turn it would of been alot easier to check/raise turn imo if he would lead any turn than bet/3b, I hate betting half pot on turn just looks weak, if you had 500$ behind I wouldn't mind it as much.
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Old 05-23-2007, 02:19 AM
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Default Re: 3/6 turn b/3b bluff

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it's gonna be pretty hard for villain to call with 1 pair, so i guess i like it.

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While the above makes sense, I would be far less likely to do this against a villain who recently stacked of with QQ on an Axx board. Obviously, I make plays like this from time to time, but this doesn't seem like the right villain to do it against.

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that's a good point. it'd also be nice to know what hero had on the QQ hand.
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Old 05-23-2007, 02:55 AM
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Default Re: 3/6 turn b/3b bluff

FPS?
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Old 05-23-2007, 03:43 AM
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Default Re: 3/6 turn b/3b bluff

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it's gonna be pretty hard for villain to call with 1 pair, so i guess i like it.

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While the above makes sense, I would be far less likely to do this against a villain who recently stacked of with QQ on an Axx board. Obviously, I make plays like this from time to time, but this doesn't seem like the right villain to do it against.

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that's a good point. it'd also be nice to know what hero had on the QQ hand.

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doh, i meant to include it because i think its highly relevant, i had middle set with 99.
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Old 05-23-2007, 03:45 AM
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I hate betting half pot on turn just looks weak,

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well clearly, it was supposed to induce this raise with a range wide enough to make the 3bet profitable
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Old 05-23-2007, 03:53 AM
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this absolutely BLOWS me
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