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Old 05-22-2007, 07:46 PM
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Default Queens full. Awkward river. Hmmmmm.

I've reraised from the button a couple of times preflop with not much but not yet been caught with air. Villain will view me as pretty TAG. Villain is ricestud, something of a nit. His preflop range is pretty narrow. i call the turn so i can stack him on the river. I am *obviously* gonna look that bet up, but is it worth a raise?

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Hero ($130.35)</font>
SB ($129.20)
BB ($35.80)
<font color="#C00000">UTG ($97.45)</font>
MP ($43.20)
CO ($19.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $3</font>, MP calls $3, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $14</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $11, MP calls $11.

Flop: ($43.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($43.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $14</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $14.

River: ($71.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $29</font>, Hero ?
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Old 05-22-2007, 07:49 PM
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Default Re: Queens full. Awkward river. Hmmmmm.

given your image i bet flop for value

plz. push turn.

the way you played it, i'd just call river, because if you raise you're not getting called by too much stuff you beat, and you risk a push which you don't want
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Old 05-22-2007, 07:50 PM
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Default Re: Queens full. Awkward river. Hmmmmm.

How is this awkward? UTG has put in 60% of his stack, now he is going to put the rest in.
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Old 05-22-2007, 07:53 PM
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Default Re: Queens full. Awkward river. Hmmmmm.

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How is this awkward? UTG has put in 60% of his stack, now he is going to put the rest in.

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it's awkward because it's a pfrred pot, so you're not looking super hot by the river.... that's why i'd only call the river and not push it, the way it's played
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Old 05-22-2007, 07:54 PM
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Default Re: Queens full. Awkward river. Hmmmmm.

fair enough I guess. Push the turn. I'd still push the river.
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Old 05-22-2007, 07:55 PM
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Default Re: Queens full. Awkward river. Hmmmmm.

awkward because his range is narrow and a raise (I think) is most likely only getting called by a hand that beats QQ. Specifically, I am asking if I miss out on value by not shoving here.
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Old 05-22-2007, 07:56 PM
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Default Re: Queens full. Awkward river. Hmmmmm.

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awkward because his range is narrow and a raise (I think) is most likely only getting called by a hand that beats QQ. Specifically, I am asking if I miss out on value by not shoving here.

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you missed out on truck loads of value by not raising the TURN.. AK always calls, and AA sometimes
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Old 05-22-2007, 07:57 PM
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Default Re: Queens full. Awkward river. Hmmmmm.

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plz. push turn.


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this line is obviously best and i acknowledge i screwed up by not doing this.
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Old 05-22-2007, 08:04 PM
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I've heard enough to convince me a push on the turn is correct. Anyway, I called. Villain had JJ. He may even have called the turn push, as would AK and AA. Thanks for responses.
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Old 05-22-2007, 09:11 PM
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i bet this flop like 75% with QQ. please shove turn
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