$3 sngs on PP - push or not?

[simonpoker]

Here are few hands were I right to push or not?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

BB (t2540)
Hero (t2700)
MP (t3900)
Button (t7680)
SB (t3180)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9[[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]], A[[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]].
Hero calls [t2700] , MP calls [t3900] , [color=Gray]3 folds</font>.

Flop: (t900) 5[[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]], J[[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]], 7[[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] [color=Blue](2 players)</font>

Turn: (t900) 3[[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] [color=Blue](2 players)</font>

River: (t900) 6[[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] [color=Blue](2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t900


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

UTG (t2540)
Hero (t1800)
Button (t3900)
SB (t7980)
BB (t3780)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 8[[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]], K[[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]].
[color=Gray]1 fold</font>, Hero calls [t1800] , [color=Gray]3 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t900


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (4 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

UTG (t3040)
Hero (t3810)
SB (t4040)
BB (t9110)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]], 9[[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]].
[color=Gray]1 fold</font>, Hero calls [t3810] , [color=Gray]1 fold</font>, BB calls t3410.

Flop: (t4010) T[[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]], 7[[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]], 8[[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] [color=Blue](2 players)</font>

Turn: (t4010) 4[[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] [color=Blue](2 players)</font>

River: (t4010) 6[[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] [color=Blue](2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t4010


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

MP (t3220)
CO (t4180)
Button (t940)
SB (t2790)
BB (t2780)
Hero (t6090)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]], T[[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]].
Hero calls [t6090] , [color=Gray]5 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t600


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

SB (t2820)
BB (t4780)
UTG (t2080)
MP (t2590)
CO (t2180)
Hero (t5550)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]], A[[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]].
UTG calls [t2080] , [color=Gray]2 folds</font>, Hero calls [t5550] , [color=Gray]2 folds</font>.

Flop: (t600) 2[[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]], 4[[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]], Q[[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] [color=Blue](2 players)</font>

Turn: (t600) Q[[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] [color=Blue](2 players)</font>

River: (t600) K[[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] [color=Blue](2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t600


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

MP (t3220)
CO (t4780)
Button (t4160)
SB (t2190)
BB (t2180)
Hero (t3470)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9[[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]], A[[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]].
Hero calls [t3470] , MP calls [t3220] , [color=Gray]3 folds</font>, BB calls [t1780] t400.

Flop: (t600) 7[[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]], 8[[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]], T[[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] [color=Blue](3 players)</font>

Turn: (t600) 6[[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] [color=Blue](3 players)</font>

River: (t600) 5[[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] [color=Blue](3 players)</font>

Final Pot: t600

[typically]

Shouldn't it be "Hero raises"?

[simonpoker]

indeed put the hand converter has some flaw in it.shouldn't be too hard to understand it tho.

[typically]

yes, no, yes, no, no, probably

[domme]

hand 1: fold
hand 2: fold
hand 3: i would have shoved but icm says fold
hand 4: no shove
hand 5: nope
hand 6: nope

ps: rake is the killer

[Niggel]

1: PUSH
2: PUSH
3: Tough but I'd PUSH
4: FOLD (you are not in Push/Fold Mode here so u might call or raise)
5: FOLD (you are not in Push/Fold Mode here so u might call or raise)
6: Close again but I'd shove here because you are the BigBlind the next hand.

I didn't use an ICM Calculator, but I don't think that Hand 2 is a Fold. Hand 4 and 5 are not Push or Fold Decisions because you still have above 10 BB's left.

Edit: I overlooked, that it is a $3 SnG so the Calling Ranges are much looser. I still would say that pushing is in most cases correct.

[simonpoker]

[ QUOTE ]
1: PUSH
2: PUSH
3: Tough but I'd PUSH
4: FOLD (you are not in Push/Fold Mode here so u might call or raise)
5: FOLD (you are not in Push/Fold Mode here so u might call or raise)
6: Close again but I'd shove here because you are the BigBlind the next hand.

I didn't use an ICM Calculator, but I don't think that Hand 2 is a Fold. Hand 4 and 5 are not Push or Fold Decisions because you still have above 10 BB's left.

Edit: I overlooked, that it is a $3 SnG so the Calling Ranges are much looser. I still would say that pushing is in most cases correct.

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Thanks but on hands 4 and 5 my opps don't have more than 10bbs left?or that doesn't matter [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] ?

[Niggel]

Oh yes it does matter, but I still don't think you need to push here. On Hand 4 and 5 you can raise to 1000 or so and call an AI from the Shortstacks, but you still can fold to a reraise from the middle stacks.
By pushing you have more Fold Equity but if a player with a healthy stack wakes up with a monster you are crippled and with such a healthy stack (about 15 BB's left) you don't need to play that aggressive with a hand like ATo.

Edit: If there would be just 4 players left and you are on the bubble you can push more against healthy stacks, because they fear busting out and finishing OTM (Out of the Money). You have a higher Fold Equity thenn, but with 5 Players you want the Blinds to be higher or the hand to be better to justify a PUSH here.

[simonpoker]

[ QUOTE ]
Oh yes it does matter, but I still don't think you need to push here. On Hand 4 and 5 you can raise to 1000 or so and call an AI from the Shortstacks, but you still can fold to a reraise from the middle stacks.
By pushing you have more Fold Equity but if a player with a healthy stack wakes up with a monster you are crippled and with such a healthy stack (about 15 BB's left) you don't need to play that aggressive with a hand like ATo.

Edit: If there would be just 4 players left and you are on the bubble you can push more against healthy stacks, because they fear busting out and finishing OTM (Out of the Money). You have a higher Fold Equity thenn, but with 5 Players you want the Blinds to be higher or the hand to be better to justify a PUSH here.

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Thank you, cleared up few things for me

[simonpoker]

[ QUOTE ]
hand 1: fold
hand 2: fold
hand 3: i would have shoved but icm says fold
hand 4: no shove
hand 5: nope
hand 6: nope

ps: rake is the killer

[/ QUOTE ]

why should I fold them all? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]