Live Tourney, Do I have a real claim here?

[Emon96]

Ok, so I have taken to the local cardrooms here in Eastern Indiana (where they just signed a bill into law that will outlaw poker in two months, but that is another post) where I believe I have been cheated of some equity and would like an expirienced players opinion.

We are at the break of a two-table $50+10 tournament where 4 players have already busted out. At the break 4 players walk in and ask to play. The tounament director decides to let them play but with a stack reduced by 20% (starting stacks were 6000 blind 10/20 they were given 4800). In this tournament it really didn't cost me any money as I busted well before the money (it payed top three), but the cardroom keeps points. Points are awarded for any final table finish and reward the top ten players of the month with an entry into a $5000 freeroll. Had the players not been allowed to enter I would have finished at thh final table and strengthened my spot in the top ten. Is this a blatantly wrong thing for the cardroom to do in a tournament or is it a decision that is up to the TD that I have to live with?


Thanks
Emon96

[BadgerPro]

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At the break 4 players walk in and ask to play. The tounament director decides to let them play but with a stack reduced by 20% (starting stacks were 6000 blind 10/20 they were given 4800).

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This part shouldn't have been allowed to happen in the first place IMO. But I don't think you have any claim here to get the points.

[Emon96]

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At the break 4 players walk in and ask to play. The tounament director decides to let them play but with a stack reduced by 20% (starting stacks were 6000 blind 10/20 they were given 4800).

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This part shouldn't have been allowed to happen in the first place IMO. But I don't think you have any claim here to get the points.

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I was pretty sure once someone busted out that registration was closed. I don't want to make a claim on the points, I just want to make sure I have a legitimate case to approach the TD with.

[BadgerPro]

I'm not sure how you can say for certain that you would have finished at the final table. With two tables there were either 14 or 16 players left (10 or 9 seated tables) So you still needed 5 or 6 players to bust to reach the final table. So you can't claim that you would have for sure made the final table. Because of this I don't think you have a case.

I would bring up the fact that he let other people into the game though after registration was supposed to be closed. If it's a rebuy tourney or many casinos allow players to take seats as players bust out if there is a waiting list then I would understand. However, I have a hard time believing this is the case at a two table tourney.

[Emon96]

I'll be honest, It wasn't me at the tourney but an older friend of mine who is trying to run me down in the points [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Also, it wasn't strictly a two-table tourney, but there were 20 people registered at the start time and the additional 4 players didn't arrive until 1 hour later. They had neither called ahead, nor reserved their seat earlier. My friend busted 12th and saw all 4 of the additional players make the final table. Seemed shady to me and wanted varied opinions....Thank You for yours Badger.

[StepBangin]

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Ok, so I have taken to the local cardrooms here in Eastern Indiana (where they just signed a bill into law that will outlaw poker in two months, but that is another post)

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Link please?

[Emon96]

http://www.in.gov/gov/uploads/2007%20Bill%20Watch.htm

Bill 1510


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[StepBangin]

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http://www.in.gov/gov/uploads/2007%20Bill%20Watch.htm

Bill 1510


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"Gaming. Establishes the license control and gaming control divisions within the gaming commission. Makes numerous changes to the laws concerning charity gaming licenses and the participants in charity gaming. Authorizes the gaming commission to issue an annual license permitting a qualified organization to sell pull tabs, punchboards, and tip boards at any time on the premises owned or leased by the qualified organization and regularly used for the activities of the qualified organization. Authorizes an annual charity game night license. Specifies that pre- elementary childhood development programs and state educational institutions are qualified organizations. Specifies the conditions for conducting raffles and door prize drawings applicable to a candidate's committee. Makes certain changes concerning manufacturers and distributors of charity gaming supplies. Permits certain rent expenses to be deducted from gross revenues for purposes of calculating fees for renewing charity gaming licenses. Authorizes the revocation of a lottery retailer's contract with the lottery commission, a charity gaming license, a retail merchant's certificate, a tobacco sales certificate, or an alcoholic beverage permit for violations of certain statutes. Provides that a second unrelated conviction for professional gambling, maintaining a professional gambling site, or promoting professional gambling is a Class C felony rather than a Class D felony. Authorizes the possession of an antique slot machine that is used for decorative, historic, or nostalgic purposes. Provides that possessing an electronic gaming device is a Class A infraction. Provides that knowingly or intentionally accepting or offering to accept, for profit, money or other property risked in gambling on an electronic gaming device maintained by the person is maintaining a professional gambling site, a Class D felony."


How does that outlaw poker in Indiana?