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Old 05-18-2007, 02:52 AM
BGnight BGnight is offline
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Default what else am i s\'posed to do?

Villian is 34/27/ 70hands I'm not calling just to hit a set, so pf is fine. Is a smaller raise better here? I think I can accomplish the same thing w/ smaller bet and shut down if called or pushed, right?
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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Hero ($224.35)
SB ($230.75)
BB ($554.15)
UTG ($222.15)
MP ($284.45)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $26</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $20.

Flop: ($54) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $36</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $198.35</font>
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Old 05-18-2007, 03:01 AM
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Default Re: what else am i s\'posed to do?

the ol' tufat minraise is much cheaper than this. And I'd much rather have a two overs when making this play.
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Old 05-18-2007, 03:04 AM
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Default Re: what else am i s\'posed to do?

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the ol' tufat minraise is much cheaper than this. And I'd much rather have a two overs when making this play.

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I don't know what a tufat minraise is but I like the idea. I guess I had some silly idea the push would fold JJ and an outside chance at QQ, lol.
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Old 05-18-2007, 03:07 AM
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Default Re: what else am i s\'posed to do?

i'm inclined to just call his flop bet and see what he does on the turn
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Old 05-18-2007, 03:08 AM
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Default Re: what else am i s\'posed to do?

hmmm, I'm torn between that and the minraise. I hate giving overs a freeby here.
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Old 05-18-2007, 03:11 AM
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Default Re: what else am i s\'posed to do?

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the ol' tufat minraise is much cheaper than this. And I'd much rather have a two overs when making this play.

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I don't know what a tufat minraise is but I like the idea. I guess I had some silly idea the push would fold JJ and an outside chance at QQ, lol.

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P.S. a T high flop isn't the greatest place to be making a play on also. JJ+ is going nowhere.
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Old 05-18-2007, 03:29 AM
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Default Re: what else am i s\'posed to do?

I agree w/ the T high flop not being great. I feel like I'm ahead of most of the unpaired parts of his reraising range and can get a very small portion of better made hands in that range to fold (88,AT,ehhh that's about it), so really I'm just gambling that I'm ahead here. Basically I'm just protecting my hand and trying to bluff a few better hands, but I hate it now that I thought about it.
A flop float or smaller raise seems best for sure.
I think the c/raise allin is good for Axx board.
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Old 05-18-2007, 04:49 AM
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Default Re: what else am i s\'posed to do?

call flop &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&g t;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; shove flop

Call = float = goot
Shove = bluff = bad
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Old 05-18-2007, 06:42 AM
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I call flop here and fold to turn aggression.
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Old 05-18-2007, 06:54 AM
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Default Re: what else am i s\'posed to do?

i used this exact line in a session with 99 on a JT4 flop, but I was OOP and I CRAI.

I mean, theres arugments for saving money by minraising, but I think a shove is fine here too. However, I would rather be 100 bb deep to start the hand, obv [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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