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Old 05-18-2007, 12:05 AM
allaboutheu allaboutheu is offline
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I've been in a bit of a slump recently and I think its more then just variance, I think there are some major leaks in my game. Last month I was a winning player 7% roi (1.2k games) while this month I'm down a small amount (.8k games). Last month I was 15 tabling, and this month has been 8-15 at a time. I only started playing halfway through last month so each of these months I have about 2 weeks worth of games played.

These are $16 turbos on Pokerstars

Last month:

blinds vpivp/pfr%/+/-
10/20 6.05/3.11/+26.6k
15/30 6.1/3.3/-4.9k
25/50 6.7/6.9/+13k
50/100 7.9/3.9/+7.8k
75/150 11.5/10.3/-50.4k
100/200 20.3/17.7/+15.4k
200/400 32.5/28.4/+97.5k
300/600 42.2/36.4/+42.2k

This Month:

blinds vpivp/pfr%/+/-
10/20 5.8/2.5/+3.5k
15/30 5.9/2.7/-2.2k
25/50 5.7/3.1/+3.8k
50/100 7.1/5.9/-21.8k
75/150 10.5/9.4/-12.6k
100/200 19.5/16.8/-22.1k
200/400 29.6/25.4/-86k
300/600 38.2/31.8/-39k

Some things I notice about these numbers is last month I lost a ton of chips at the 75/150 blind level but won at (virtually) every single other level, why is that?

This month I seem to be playing a little bit tighter at each level so that is something I clearly need to fix, but I am losing chips at almost every single level wheras before I was not. What does this mean exactly?

I'm honestly not sure what if any information one can garner from these statistics but I would really appreciate some input. I think that this could be usefull not only for myself, but for others in my shoes also, or people who are pretty new to the forum.

Sidenote: table selection is not a problem as I am generally playing w/ only 1-2 other regulars at the same table(s).

I watch a video a day on sngicons, and spend a good deal of time w/ sngpt as well so I don't think studying is the problem either.

Anyone care to take a crack at this?

EDIT:
Last months distribution:
1st/2nd/3rd/4th/5th/6th/7th/8th/9th
12%/13%/12%/14%/15%/12%/11%/4%/ 3%

This months distribution:
1st/2nd/3rd/4th/5th/6th/7th/8th/9th
9%/13%/14%/15%/15%/13%/9%/ 6%/ 3%
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Old 05-18-2007, 12:48 AM
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Default Re: LC: Pokertracker stats feedback appreciated

Your VPIP seems really low for the early levels are you not playing any small pairs?
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Old 05-18-2007, 12:09 PM
The Venetian The Venetian is offline
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It looks like you could probably open up your game a bit more earlier and you appear to be running really bad at the high blind levels this month. Check W$SD numbers and see if they're floating nicely around 50% or slipping into the low 40's. If they're lower, you're just running bad and it should turn around.

Let me know your screen name and I can see if I see anything glaring from your stats from my perspective. If you've played that much, we've probably tangled a lot.
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Old 05-18-2007, 01:16 PM
allaboutheu allaboutheu is offline
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Unfortunatly my W$SD seems to be fine as both last month and this month it was 52%. At 100/200 it was 51%, 200/400 47% and 300/600 48% this month and last months was nearly identical never more then 1% off.

As far as you looking at my stats from games played together that would be very difficult as we have only played 1 game together this past month. The reason for that being I try to practice good table selection and you are 1 of a handful of players that I try to never sit down with. I could send you a screenshot with all of my stats if youd be willing to help me out. Which statistics do you think are most relevant in this scenario? Thanks a lot Venetian, I respect your game a ton and if you could help me out I would really appreciate it.
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Old 05-18-2007, 01:55 PM
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Some other PT stats I like to look at are Folded BB to Steal and Att. to Steal Blinds. Though this is not concrete or anything, the consistent winning players seem to run about 80% Folded BB to Steal and 30% Att. to Steal Blinds overall. Definitely higher than 30% blind steal from 75/150 on. If you fold BB to steal much higher than 80%, you're almost certainly missing potodds calls or giving your opponents too much credit.

I can say that if you're 50% W$SD and you're losing chips, it has to mean that you're not winning your rightful share of chips without showdowns.

Also, something interesting for those of you who think you can't win w/o being ultra-tight in the early levels, I have a player in my db who is +9% over 1,888 $16 SNG's in the last three months who plays the first four levels at 30/10 VP$IP/PFR. There are others, but he's the most glaring and consistent. SNG DERB anyone?
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Old 05-18-2007, 02:30 PM
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Also, something interesting for those of you who think you can't win w/o being ultra-tight in the early levels, I have a player in my db who is +9% over 1,888 $16 SNG's in the last three months who plays the first four levels at 30/10 VP$IP/PFR. There are others, but he's the most glaring and consistent. SNG DERB anyone?

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IMO playing the early leves loose is the most profitable way to play 16s, the players are so horrible and I don't think it would make that big of a difference in your late-game FE. But if you can crush the 16s in the early levels it's a lot more profitable to be playing cash.
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Old 05-18-2007, 02:44 PM
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Thanks for your help Venetian I think this may be exactly what I was looking for. Both last month (good month) and this month (bad month) my fold bb to steal % was 86%. So maybe I'm not calling enough shoves later on, or just in general not calling w/ playable hands w/ good pot odds?

At 75/150 my fold bb to steal % was 90%, at 100/200 it was 86%, 200/400 it was 82% and at 300/600 it was 73%. Anything seem grossly out of line here? Maybe to tight at 75/150?

Last month my attempt to steal blinds was:
10/20 15/30 25/50 50/100 75/150 100/200 200/400 300/600 TOT
8% 9% 11% 14% 23% 31% 45% 56% 29%

This month my attempt to steal blinds was:
10/20 15/30 25/50 50/100 75/150 100/200 200/400 300/600 TOT
5% 6% 6% 12% 19% 30% 39% 47% 26%

Nothing to drastic but i seems to me that I need to be raising with a much wider range of hands throughout the sng does this seem correct?

Also, is there any 1 level where it seems I am really missing out on something? I think I may have a huge leak in my game at 75/150 I may be playing way to tight if my attempt to steal should be 30% and its only ~22%.

Again thanks a ton I really apprecaite your (and anyone else's) help in this issue. Ive been trying really hard to improve my game but my results have just remained stagnant. Hopefully your advice will help me plug what looks to be some big leaks in my game. Thanks.
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Old 05-18-2007, 08:01 PM
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Took some of the people in this thread and forums advice before playing a quick 8 table session just now. After going 56 sngs without a win I finally broke through with 3 1sts. I loosened up my play early on a lot and was also more agressive later on. Thanks guys, hopefully I'm finally back on the right track.
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Old 05-19-2007, 03:15 PM
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Congrats! Good to hear. Looking at the last items you posted, do you feel like you're getting run over at 200/400 and 300/600? I looked at some good players' Folded BB to Steal numbers and they were running mostly in the 60's, so you may be folding to shoves too much.

Maybe filter your stats for 2-handed, 3-handed, and 4-handed each and see if you're leaking by being too weak/tight.
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Old 05-19-2007, 03:30 PM
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While I don't feel like I'm getting run over at those levels, one of my problems is that I would find myself to shortstacked when those levels hit me. Also I found myself shoving hands that I probably shouldn't ie 2/400 5 handed w/ ~2k shoving arago utg.

I do think I need to loosen up my calling range a bit later on in the game especially against regs who i know have very wide pushing ranges.

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by filtering the data though, as I'm not sure what it is I would be looking for once I did it. The fold bb to steal % and attempt to steal blinds % I would assume?

btw actually did play a game w/ you yesterday, you snuck into the last game in my sesh haha.
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