Hand b/w two big stacks deep in Stars $10rebuy

[swede554]

Stars $10 rebuy 35k grnt. 200 left, top 180 get paid.

Villain is a pretty strong aggressive player, he just dobled AK>JJ. I've been pretty active, and raised his BB as well one orbit ago which he folded. We're both in top 15 chips.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1600 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 (t24616)
Hero (t81779)
CO (t75372)
Button (t19860)
SB (t23637)
BB (t116800)
UTG (t53508)
UTG+1 (t48572)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t4400</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls t2800.

Flop: (t10200) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t11200</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero?

[La Brujita]

i just move it in, but his overbet to me looks like a jack that doesn't want action.

[Proofrock]

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i just move it in, but his overbet to me looks like a jack that doesn't want action.

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I'm not crazy about shoving t80k here, but I do want to get it in on this flop. I'd put in a raise to something like t28k. If he shoves I call. If he calls and checks the turn I either shove or take the free-card. Perhaps this is spewy, though.

I think an argument can be made for just calling as well.

[APipeDream]

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just move it in, but his overbet to me looks like a jack that doesn't want action.

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I don't think moving it in is really necessary here at all. Making it 27000 and folding to a shove or just calling here is much better IMO.

[swede554]

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Making it 27000 and folding to a shove

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This would be really bad btw.

[jaroot]

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This would be really bad btw.

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[La Brujita]

the thing about moving it in is you have some fe against hands that are beating you, and you avoid the problem where if you raise he calls and pushes a blank turn.

calling flop is the other best option to moving in, i think. i think calling might be ok, if there is a chance he checks turn and you can either check behind or try to semibluff.

perhaps calling is better here, im really not sure.

i'm trying to figure out if making a small raise has the benefits of moving him off a hand if he flat calls and you push turn. i'm not sure. that would be the reason to raise, because you are calling any push if you raise the flop.

[jaroot]

can make a case for cc or jam here

I'd lean towards calling and going from there.

[registrar]

The problem with moving in is that I don't think a jack folds ever on that board. However, the draws fold, which is quite nice. I tend to think that these overbets are not draws but strong but vulnerable made hands so I'd call.

[gravycakes]

The problem with this hand is he`s probably got AJ KJ or QJ...taking your outs for a straight or if you hit a bigger pair he might have 2 pair. I like a call here though. Just be careful you`re on the bubble.