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Old 05-17-2007, 04:50 PM
BevillTheDevil BevillTheDevil is offline
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Default 50NL - TPTK+FD vs a nit 200BB\'s deep

villian is about a 12/2/3.5 after 50 hands...i felt like i completely played this hand wrong so whats your line here??

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $13.82
UTG+1: $25.45
CO: $32.33
Button: $21.20
Hero: $116.15
BB: $98.45

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
3 folds, Button calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $6</font>, Button folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($12.5, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $3</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $11</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $22</font>, Hero ?
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Old 05-17-2007, 05:48 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - TPTK+FD vs a nit 200BB\'s deep

May be a leak, but I shove here
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Old 05-17-2007, 05:54 PM
barryc83 barryc83 is offline
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Default Re: 50NL - TPTK+FD vs a nit 200BB\'s deep

Heh weird spot. He appears tight but thats a small sample. Hes repping AA big time though. I definitely wouldn't raise the flop bc 1) you only fold out hands you beat and 2) with 2 streets of betting left you can still get stacks in.

I feel like you're freerolling him or hes got AA (KK possible but unlikely obv). I'd call flop and if the diamond hits I'd just lead the turn, if not I'd call his bet as he appears to be a min bettor. Same on the river, if I hit, I just push bc no one lays down AA esp donks. By check calling down I guess people might argue that you're losing value, but that min raise to $22 scares the [censored] out of me and do you really think hes gonna stack off with QQ? I doubt it. If he checks behind on the turn or something, I will lead the river for value.

EDIT: Obv your first raise to $11 is standard and good for value, I mean dont push over his minraise.
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Old 05-17-2007, 06:18 PM
RUDIKS RUDIKS is offline
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Default Re: 50NL - TPTK+FD vs a nit 200BB\'s deep

Assuming his range is AK, KK, AA

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 54.110% 38.03% 16.08% 3012 1273.50 { AdKd }
Hand 1: 45.890% 29.81% 16.08% 2361 1273.50 { KK+, AKo }

If we take out AK,
Hand 0: 40.038% 39.70% 00.34% 1572 13.50 { AdKd }
Hand 1: 59.962% 59.62% 00.34% 2361 13.50 { KK+ }

I think I shove here because on the turn pots ~60 (assuming you flat call) and you have 90 behind, and i doubt you're folding. Seeing a blank turn just decreases your equity.
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Old 05-17-2007, 07:25 PM
Antinome Antinome is offline
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Default Re: 50NL - TPTK+FD vs a nit 200BB\'s deep

b3bai flop
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Old 05-17-2007, 07:42 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - TPTK+FD vs a nit 200BB\'s deep

The problem I have with pushing here is that we have almost no FE over better hands - he's not folding AA/set, and I think worse FDs/air are a small part of his calling range.

What I don't know though is whether the dead money in the pot after the flop c/r/3b compensates us for being a 2/1 dog when called. Can anyone work this out quickly at the table?

I think I lead flop here. I think you get called by all sorts of odd stuff here, and if you are raised, you can push or peel. I don't know which of those would be better and look forward to others' thoughts on it.


EDIT: Sorry, I'm talking crap. He can't have a set here. D'uh. Yeah. freerolling.
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Old 05-17-2007, 07:45 PM
Angrymoog Angrymoog is offline
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Default Re: 50NL - TPTK+FD vs a nit 200BB\'s deep

Looks like you're on a freeroll. Push all in on the flop.
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Old 05-17-2007, 07:55 PM
DannyOcean_ DannyOcean_ is offline
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Default Re: 50NL - TPTK+FD vs a nit 200BB\'s deep

Either AK, KK, or AA if this is a nit. There are 3 possible AA's and 6 possible AK's, and 1 KK. He will call regardless, so should you push?

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

9,900 games 0.031 secs 319,354 games/sec

Board: Ks 2d 5d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 56.924% 37.70% 19.23% 3732 1903.50 { AdKd }
Hand 1: 43.076% 23.85% 19.23% 2361 1903.50 { KK+, AKs, AKo }

In a heartbeat push. EEEZZZZZZ
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Old 05-17-2007, 08:00 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - TPTK+FD vs a nit 200BB\'s deep

This looks like a shove to me.
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Old 05-17-2007, 08:06 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - TPTK+FD vs a nit 200BB\'s deep

i'm getting all my money in
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