Razz Tournament Play

[kerze]

This happened in the $24 Razz tourney the other day. There were 91 entrants and 16 places paid. We were down to 13 players and I was in 13th after taking a bad beat and then bringing in 3 hands in a row. 13th pays out about $30 while 12th pays out about $40. Average stack was $10,500. I don't have the actual hand history because of performance issues with Full Tilt.

(xx) K - $4,000 in chips brings in for full $800 (he had sucked out on me to avoid elimination)
(xx) J - folds
(xx) Q - folds
(xx) 4 - $20,000 in chips - very agressive - calls
(xx) 7 - about $12,000 in chips - tight player - calls
(a3) 5 - hero - $3,204 chips (after posting ante) raises to $1,600

K then calls the raise, 4 calls, 7 reraises to $2,400 , Hero reraises to $3,200 . everyone calls.

Hero bets out remaining $4 in chips on 4th and K is also all in on 4th.


Was my raise to $1,600 the right play on 3rd. I thought maybe K and 7 would go away. Was really surprised when 7 reraised and at that time I had to reraise all in with what I thought was clearly the best hand ( the 4 could have been calling with about anything).

[Alchemist]

Hands don't get much better than that and you're short. I'd run with it and hope to quadruple up.

[Andy B]

How much better do you think you're going to do for your all-in? You're a ways away from the significant money, and if you want to get there, you need to make a move *now*. Unless you need that extra $10 to buy groceries or something.

[Sp00n]

Stick it in, you're beyond desperate,

[SGspecial]

Getting your T3200 in on 3rd street was your best play. I don't know about committing your last T4 on 4th tho without seeing how it broke for you [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

p.s. please supply names of donkeys... I mean opps, if you have them.

[betgo]

You have to jam this on 3rd even in a cash game or with deep money. The K brought in for a raise and two low cards flat called. You have to be way ahead with the three wheel cards.

[betgo]

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p.s. please supply names of donkeys... I mean opps, if you have them.

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These razz tournaments are pretty much all donkeys. The stakes are low and there aren't enough entries for a decent prize pool. All 3 villains played 3rd street strangely.

[kerze]

I couldn't believe when I saw the K complete. IIRC he had two babies in the hole. The 4 had 95 in the hole. Don't know what 7 had but I assume it was two cards under 5 because she had been pretty tight. The 7 eventually folded on 6th after she paired up and 4 had a decent board. I hit bad on 4th, 5th, 6th (all >9) but still had a draw on 7th to a 9 which missed. The 4 ended up winning the substantial pot and I finished 13th and K finished 12th.

When I raised I was hoping to thin the field and hopefully isolate the K and double through him and pick up the dead money and antes. I wasn't really happy with 4 going to 4th street even with my powerhouse hand.

My thought even before the hand finished up was if I just called, I might have been able to thin the field but thinking about it more, I had to get all the money in the pot at that point. If I had won I would have had $12800 plus the antes which I feel I could have done something with.

Played the $24 again last night and ended up being bubble boy.

ON the plus side, last night I played three sessions of $1/2 sitting in with $10 each time and sat out with $40, $50, and $40 for a total profit of $100. This was offset by the $30 I lost taking a shot at $3/$6.

Thanks for all the advice.