50NL; TT getting played back at on 2JJ flop

Lego05 · #1 05-16-2007, 11:01 PM

Villian is 31.11/20/2.38 over 45 hands.

Turn move and river plan if not a fold please.

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Hero ($54.10)
CO ($50)
Button ($108.20)
SB ($80)
BB ($58.35)
UTG ($60.70)

Preflop: Hero is MP with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to $2, CO calls $2, 3 folds.

Flop: ($4.75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $3, CO raises to $9, Hero calls $6.

Turn: ($22.75) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $15, Hero ???

WC101 · #2 05-17-2007, 12:11 AM

The call preflop tells me the CO most likely played AJ maybe QJ suited. Maybe even as loose as TJ suited. The only way to have really found that out was to either check raise after the flop (betting 3.00 doesnt get much info. It Looks like a continuation bet) or reraise him after the flop. You can usually get away a lot cheaper with the check raise. If you get played back at then I'd fold. Since he's either a loon or has the nuts. I'd say the odds are 8/2 nuts/bluff.. Move on

wildzer0 · #3 05-17-2007, 12:23 AM

I think this is fine until the turn, I would just go ahead and fold there. You're going to face a decision on the river you're really unhappy with if you call this bet - just lousy reverse implied odds unless you have a good read that he'll make these kind of moves at paired boards.

Lego05 · #4 05-17-2007, 12:32 PM

Bump.

Paxosmotic · #5 05-17-2007, 12:35 PM

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Bump.

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Fold.

rakes.a.beach · #6 05-17-2007, 12:37 PM

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The call preflop tells me the CO most likely played AJ maybe QJ suited. Maybe even as loose as TJ suited. The only way to have really found that out was to either check raise after the flop (betting 3.00 doesnt get much info. It Looks like a continuation bet) or reraise him after the flop. You can usually get away a lot cheaper with the check raise. If you get played back at then I'd fold. Since he's either a loon or has the nuts. I'd say the odds are 8/2 nuts/bluff.. Move on

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May call as loose as JT suited? who the hell doesn't call JT suited? I think check raise flop is horrible as is 3betting the flop.

OP, your line is fine. Just fold the turn.

jdefoe · #7 05-17-2007, 12:38 PM

I would bet $4-4.75 on the flop. If i haven't seen how the villan plays on paired boards before, i would simply fold without a good read

Lego05 · #8 05-17-2007, 12:38 PM

Are we really putting him squarely on a J here? Most people won't play so aggressively if they have a J on this board, right? People will try to slowplay their trips.

jdefoe · #9 05-17-2007, 12:46 PM

does anyone think he could be making a "raise for information" with something like 88?

Waingro · #10 05-17-2007, 12:58 PM

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Are we really putting him squarely on a J here? Most people won't play so aggressively if they have a J on this board, right? People will try to slowplay their trips.

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Yeah there are plenty of aggrodonks out there who will take this line with any two cards. However, this villain doesn´t seem to be loose enough pf or aggro enough to fit that description. Usually this kind of player take one shot at the pot and slows down on the turn if he is called.