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Old 05-16-2007, 05:46 PM
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Default Two short stack felting decisions from $50r

It's been pretty grim with seemingly no profitable spots but a recent post recently made me wonder whether my pushbotting strategy is all that it should be.

Anyway, second break within one minute so my next BB is likely to be 900. Not much pushing happening at the table so while most of them are pretty bad, it's hard to judge calling ranges. Sheets is in MP.

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t200/t400
(Ante: t25)
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t35774
Hero: t3949
MP1: t19475
MP2: t6002
MP3: t10885
CO: t38457
Button: t15266
SB: t5274
BB: t13449

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is UTG+1 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, Hero?


First hand after second break.

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No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t300/t600
(Ante: t50)
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t18625
UTG+1: t5952
MP1: t10835
MP2: t41032
MP3: t16841
CO: t5024
Button: t11799
SB: t34524
Hero: t3899

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
5 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises all-in t4974</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero?
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Old 05-16-2007, 05:48 PM
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Default Re: Two short stack felting decisions from $50r

easy folds on both
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Old 05-16-2007, 05:55 PM
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Default Re: Two short stack felting decisions from $50r

2nd one no way. 1st one, if you raise 2.5-3x your raise will get a lot of respeck i'll steal here if the table has been respecking EP raises. also, if you get called you'll have to c-bet, but again, there is mad respect to be given to EP steals. Just don't get too attached to stealing from EP, this is one of a few times it's not a bad play.
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Old 05-16-2007, 06:00 PM
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OK. On #2, folding leaves me open pushing with virtually no FE and a reasonably aggro table with some very big stacks. CO's range here is virtually any two, no?
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Old 05-16-2007, 07:14 PM
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nonono

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Old 05-16-2007, 07:29 PM
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Hand 1 EZ fold.

Hand 2 less easy fold.
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Old 05-16-2007, 07:32 PM
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FFFFFFFFFFFFffffffffffffffffffffoooooollllllllllld ddddd.

Really really easy, joel. Dunno why you'd think differently. You'll still have FE in the second one even if you lose the SB as well... 5 BBs has plenty of FE even with the bigger antes at 300/600/50.
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Old 05-16-2007, 08:02 PM
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Default Re: Two short stack felting decisions from $50r

I'm leaning towards easy fold for both.

1st hand I could raise to 1000 &amp; let it go to a re-raise? Or would you be pot-committed if you'd invested 1000 already?

Either way, 97o isn't a hand I'd particularly be looking at doing that with.

Hand 2 I'm ditching no matter what, I'd say. J3hh doesn't get me excited to be calling a push, no matter how short I am!
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Old 05-17-2007, 04:53 AM
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FFFFFFFFFFFFffffffffffffffffffffoooooollllllllllld ddddd.

Really really easy, joel. Dunno why you'd think differently. You'll still have FE in the second one even if you lose the SB as well... 5 BBs has plenty of FE even with the bigger antes at 300/600/50.

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Guys, I think the second one is a lot closer than it looks but I am happy to stand corrected by anyone with access poker stove. I have to call 3249 to win a 8548 pot. How wide does CO's pushing range have to be for this to be be profitable?

CO has an M of less than 4. He's got to be open shoving more or less any two. Also, my image would be super tight.

Let's assume that J3s is at the very bottom of his pushing range, is a call profitable on that basis?

Of course the second point is that it is extremely unlikely that the next hand is folded to my SB and even more unlikely that, even if it is, the guy to my left is not going to call if I push. So let these blinds go through me and I have 2899 chips, an M of 2 and, I would suggest, no FE.
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Old 05-17-2007, 06:42 AM
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Default Re: Two short stack felting decisions from $50r

afterwards, like this, it looks like u have a choice beetween these 2 spots to pick. iŽd rather go with the first one, try and get a stack that can survive the blinds semi-ok or get lucky and double.

second, he probably push a lot of hand u got 60/40 against and quite a lot u are 40/60. i think this is an ok spot to gamble with but id rather try the first spot. (with k3hh id be instacalling in 2nd spot?). obv this only makes sense if you think the shortie here has a wide range, so u dont run into someone who is like 8/5 and has been waiting for their big pp
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