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Old 05-15-2007, 06:23 PM
wackjob wackjob is offline
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Default Fold to river Raise?

CO here is 37/6/.65 very passive, fishy. Button is 49/1.5/.47 SUPER fish(limping 27s etc).

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I raise UTG w/ A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], UTG1 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB folds, BB fold.

FLOP: 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I bet, CO calls, Button calls.

TURN: Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I bet, CO calls, Button calls.

RIVER: J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

I bet, CO folds, Button raises, I fold.

Who looks him up here, or who thinks c/c is a better river play?
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Old 05-15-2007, 06:35 PM
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Default Re: Fold to river Raise?

don't c/c the river. you are missing too much value from all the smaller pairs that he checks behind.

i think you can fold to a passive villain here. i call river raises too much, and i think it's a leak
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Old 05-15-2007, 06:40 PM
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Default Re: Fold to river Raise?

Textbook against this opponent.
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Old 05-15-2007, 06:44 PM
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Default Re: Fold to river Raise?

Yep looks very good (always value bet btw), I should fold here too but at the tables I always call TT
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Old 05-15-2007, 06:57 PM
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Default Re: Fold to river Raise?

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Yep looks very good (always value bet btw), I should fold here too but at the tables I always call TT

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This is cutting in to a very significant portion of your winrate.
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Old 05-15-2007, 07:09 PM
Nick C Nick C is offline
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Default Re: Fold to river Raise?

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Yep looks very good (always value bet btw), I should fold here too but at the tables I always call TT

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This is cutting in to a very significant portion of your winrate.

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Oh, I don't know. How often do you run into players who are as passive as Button these days?

I ask in part because I've been unwinding with a little 0.5/1 after NL sessions lately, and I've been surprised by what a spew-fest it has been at times (at least at some of the tables I've been at), which really surprised me given the limit.
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Old 05-15-2007, 07:19 PM
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Default Re: Fold to river Raise?

yea i doubt it as well. you can always call this and it wont matter much. by "this" i mean an in-position river raise on an overcard flush card in a 10 bet pot when you hold tptk and your kicker is the same suit as the flush.
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Old 05-15-2007, 09:00 PM
sethypooh21 sethypooh21 is offline
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Default Re: Fold to river Raise?

Calling against a villain this passive is probably an error, but not too big of one given the pot size. If you had more than TPTK, I think folding is a clear error, as even this guy probably says "WTF, two pairs! I has teh nutz! Raise..." here a reasonable amount.
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Old 05-16-2007, 03:26 AM
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Default Re: Fold to river Raise?

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yea i doubt it as well. you can always call this and it wont matter much. by "this" i mean an in-position river raise on an overcard flush card in a 10 bet pot when you hold tptk and your kicker is the same suit as the flush.

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You both are right, calling in this specific instance won't hurt us much. I was speaking more in general terms, always calling River raises from passive opponents will end up damaging your WR severely.

This used to be my biggest leak.
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