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Old 05-15-2007, 03:43 PM
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Default When to play at JACKPOT tables PARTY, 150000+

Hi,

i play 6 tables 100NL, moving up to 200 nl.


When do you think it is +EV to play at the JACKPOT tables at PARTY, it is now at 175000+.
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Old 05-15-2007, 03:45 PM
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Default Re: When to play at JACKPOT tables PARTY, 150000+

imo its +EV when the jackpot reachs about 100k, because there are so many fish... .
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Old 05-15-2007, 03:55 PM
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Default Re: When to play at JACKPOT tables PARTY, 150000+

considering purely the EV of the jackpot, bonuswhores gives the following numbers:

Level Limit Full Short Handed
$0.50-$1.00 NL $233,000 $250,000
$1-$2 NL $289,000 $303,000
$2-$4 NL $322,000 $307,000
$3-$6 NL $310,000 $296,000
$5-$10 NL $278,000 $264,000
$10-$20 NL $253,000 $240,000

So $303K on 6-max 200NL.

But whenever a huge fish from my buddylist is on a BBJ table, I'm even going to sit there when the jackpot is 2 bucks.

Edit: also note that the BBJ EV doesn't really matter, since the variance is bigger than life. You don't need much bad luck to play on BBJ tables with +EV for your whole life, spending $100K+ on BBJ rake, and still never hit it.
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Old 05-15-2007, 04:00 PM
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Default Re: When to play at JACKPOT tables PARTY, 150000+

i dont care if a table is BBJ or not. I sit if theres fish and move on if theres not.
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Old 05-15-2007, 04:26 PM
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Default Re: When to play at JACKPOT tables PARTY, 150000+

I thought the POT demands were smaller the bigger you played, since the 50c is a smaller amount comparet to the pot.

Do you change the way you play a little; ie. calling raises a bit more often with 45s etc. ? - or do you play just as you normally would - raising and 3-betting a lot ?
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Old 05-15-2007, 04:35 PM
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I thought the POT demands were smaller the bigger you played, since the 50c is a smaller amount comparet to the pot.

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The size of the BBJ has nothing to do with the potsize, so I don't really know where this thought is coming from. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

On higher tables, you have to pay the BBJ rake more often (since BBJ rake is taken in pots over $5; on low tables, the pot often doesnt reach $5). That's why the EV on higher tables is lower for the BBJ and you need a bigger BBJ for neutral EV.

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Do you change the way you play a little; ie. calling raises a bit more often with 45s etc. ? - or do you play just as you normally would - raising and 3-betting a lot ?

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And you really shouldn't let the BBJ change the way you play. Changing to a suboptimal strategy is far more -EV than the small +EV you gain for creating extra situations for the BBJ. About a 1000 times or so.
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Old 05-15-2007, 04:44 PM
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Default Re: When to play at JACKPOT tables PARTY, 150000+

Thanks a lot for the good answers; helped a lot.
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Old 05-15-2007, 04:53 PM
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