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Old 05-15-2007, 11:42 AM
Imrahil Imrahil is offline
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Default 100NL- Shove top two against nit on river?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $118.50
BB: $100.00
<u>UTG: $152.80</u>
<u>Hero (CO): $118.75</u>
BTN: $72.90

<font color="black">Reads: </font><font color="blue">Villain is RockogRul on Stars and is 15/5/2.7 over 600 hands</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $4.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12.00</font>, 3 folds, UTG calls $8.00

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($25.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($25.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $10.00</font>, Hero calls $10.00

<font color="black">River:</font> ($45.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $25.00</font>, Hero?
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Old 05-15-2007, 11:47 AM
Blinzler Blinzler is offline
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Default Re: 100NL- Shove top two against nit on river?

i just call here and think a raise is spew, which hands that he calls a 3-bet with oop, bets flop with and also bets turn would call a shove? AK maybe, but i doubt it, AJ is possible but i think rather unlikely and a set could easily be in his range.
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Old 05-15-2007, 11:48 AM
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Default Re: 100NL- Shove top two against nit on river?

i'd just call. sometimes vill is going to showdown something goofy like AT, but i think most of the time the value is in calling the river.
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Old 05-15-2007, 11:52 AM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: 100NL- Shove top two against nit on river?

Meh, I probbaly pussy out and just call.
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Old 05-15-2007, 11:55 AM
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Default Re: 100NL- Shove top two against nit on river?

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Meh, I probbaly pussy out and just call.

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Fear the nit.....
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Old 05-15-2007, 11:55 AM
DawnToDusk DawnToDusk is offline
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Default Re: 100NL- Shove top two against nit on river?

Hes got to have a pretty narrow range after calling your PF bet. He doesn't have a set of 6s or 5s and AJ isn't in his PF raising range let alone his range of hands that can all a 3bet. So I guess the only thing that you are beating here is AK. Can anyone find a fold in this spot even? Unless hes betting air here I don't know what you are beating.
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Old 05-15-2007, 11:56 AM
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Default Re: 100NL- Shove top two against nit on river?

A shove MIGHT get value from AK or 56 if he showed up with it(i doubt he ever has AJ), but other than that theres nothing good about shoving I think.
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Old 05-15-2007, 11:56 AM
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Default Re: 100NL- Shove top two against nit on river?

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Unless hes betting air here I don't know what you are beating.

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Any one pair or two pair ace?
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Old 05-15-2007, 11:59 AM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: 100NL- Shove top two against nit on river?

AK is the hand we're looking to get value from with a shove obv.
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Old 05-15-2007, 11:59 AM
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Default Re: 100NL- Shove top two against nit on river?

Not sure what this means:

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

78 games 0.005 secs 15,600 games/sec

Board: Jc As 2d 5d Qs
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 38.462% 38.46% 00.00% 30 0.00 { AA, QQ-JJ, AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 61.538% 61.54% 00.00% 48 0.00 { AQo }


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