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Old 05-15-2007, 12:40 AM
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Default NL200 - JTs - Time For a Hero Call?

Villain is 28/0 over 30 hands. What does he have here??? PF is something I do to mix up my play, not standard for me. Comments on all streets are appreciated.

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Hero ($286.50)
MP1 ($180.54)
MP2 ($200.00)
MP3 ($203.50)
CO ($231.80)
Button ($226.50)
SB ($165.82)
BB ($274.00)
UTG ($193.00)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6</font>, MP1 calls $6, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $6, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: ($21) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $17</font>, MP1 calls $17, CO folds.

Turn: ($55) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $25</font>, MP1 calls $25.

River: ($105) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $75</font>
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Old 05-15-2007, 12:59 AM
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Default Re: NL200 - JTs - Time For a Hero Call?

check raise all in on the turn.
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Old 05-15-2007, 12:59 AM
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Default Re: NL200 - JTs - Time For a Hero Call?

I would fold as all you can beat is a busted flush and he probably thinks you have a high pocket and are afraid of the 4 str8, but he also probably won't think you're capable of folding AA-QQ. It would be too ballsy for him to bet a busted flush here I think. A cold call of an EP open raise is usually a mid pocket pair which means he probably has either a boat or a str8.
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Old 05-15-2007, 01:00 AM
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Default Re: NL200 - JTs - Time For a Hero Call?

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check raise all in on the turn.

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That's not so bad if he's a habitual floater. But we don't really know that yet.
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Old 05-15-2007, 01:03 AM
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Default Re: NL200 - JTs - Time For a Hero Call?

As played, I think flop and turn are fine. I may have bet a little more on the turn, probably $30-35.

On the river I'd lead w/ a blocking bet if I were looking to get to showdown, maybe $35-40. Otherwise I'd check/fold. The board is awful and your hand isn't that strong. Seems like all you're beating is a busted [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] draw. Not the best spot for a call imo.
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Old 05-15-2007, 01:10 AM
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Default Re: NL200 - JTs - Time For a Hero Call?

I disagree about using a blocking bet here. A blocking bet is better used when a few worse hands might call and to set the river bet size. Here you are only getting called by better hands. A hand to blocking bet would be like JJ because then AT-JT might call and if raised we can safely fold as AT-JT would be crazy to raise or to bet if you checked river.
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Old 05-15-2007, 01:37 AM
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Default Re: NL200 - JTs - Time For a Hero Call?

Agreed with A_C. This seemed like a bad spot for a blocking better. c/c or c/f i'd say. I was just curious what hands you think he plays like this on all streets. Its either a monster or air, i think. What monster plays this way?
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Old 05-15-2007, 01:47 AM
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Default Re: NL200 - JTs - Time For a Hero Call?

Well like I said the most likely cold calling hand against a EP open raise for a decent player is a med pocket. He could have called with a set on the flop or either 99 or 77 since each have a gutshot. And those hands improved to a boat and a str8 by river.
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Old 05-15-2007, 01:51 AM
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Default Re: NL200 - JTs - Time For a Hero Call?

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Well like I said the most likely cold calling hand against a EP open raise for a decent player is a med pocket. He could have called with a set on the flop or either 99 or 77 since each have a gutshot. And those hands improved to a boat and a str8 by river.

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Villain would have to be insane to not raise a set on the flop or a straight on the turn IMO.
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Old 05-15-2007, 01:52 AM
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Default Re: NL200 - JTs - Time For a Hero Call?

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check raise all in on the turn.

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That's not so bad if he's a habitual floater. But we don't really know that yet.

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lets find out

check the turn, if villain checks behind then check call the river.
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