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Old 05-13-2007, 10:03 AM
checkmate36 checkmate36 is offline
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Default SB v BB in bubble. Standard?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Hero (t3310)</font>
BB (t3585)
UTG (t4515)
Button (t2090)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t3410</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Final Pot: t3610

Villian is tight so I had been doing this pretty often. I decided to run this through SNGPT to see what gives and it looks like I may need to reconsider other options.

Push hands: 88+,AJ+,KQs (7%)

Villian is tighter player who will probably wait for 66+, ATo+. Should I wait for situations where I have BB covered?

Thanks for any ideas.
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Old 05-13-2007, 11:32 AM
Little John Little John is offline
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Default Re: SB v BB in bubble. Standard?

Against a tight player push ATC, especially if you have been "quiet" during this sng and have not got caught with junk.
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Old 05-13-2007, 12:44 PM
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Default Re: SB v BB in bubble. Standard?

i dunno, 200 is really not worth it, i raise here to maybe 600, definetely exploitable by good players but it seems to work quite frequently
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Old 05-13-2007, 01:16 PM
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Default Re: SB v BB in bubble. Standard?

Shoving is +EV if you really think he's calling 66,AT+. Raising is probably more +EV, shoving 17bb on the bubble when you're 3rd usually requires a very strong hand and then shoving means you lose a lot of value. Limp or raise if BB won't bully you too much, raising is better.

I get SB 89%, BB 7.8% for the NE (edge 0%). What did I do wrong? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 05-13-2007, 01:38 PM
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Default Re: SB v BB in bubble. Standard?

I'd make a standard raise here instead.
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Old 05-13-2007, 01:59 PM
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Default Re: SB v BB in bubble. Standard?

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I'd make a standard raise here instead.

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Old 05-13-2007, 02:04 PM
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Default Re: SB v BB in bubble. Standard?

Thanks for the feedback. The big thing Im starting to understand is that I have to do something in this spot besides fold.

I have been reading up on bubble play here and on the web and Im trying to be a bit more aggro when the situation presents itself.

In the past I would try to fold my way into the money. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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Old 05-13-2007, 02:05 PM
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Default Re: SB v BB in bubble. Standard?

I also have NO problem with calling here and betting any flop.
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Old 05-13-2007, 03:01 PM
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Default Re: SB v BB in bubble. Standard?

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Shoving is +EV if you really think he's calling 66,AT+. Raising is probably more +EV, shoving 17bb on the bubble when you're 3rd usually requires a very strong hand and then shoving means you lose a lot of value. Limp or raise if BB won't bully you too much, raising is better.

I get SB 89%, BB 7.8% for the NE (edge 0%). What did I do wrong? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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Finnisher - for the NE are you just running ranges back and forth in SNGPT? I've been looking for an easier way to get to these.
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Old 05-13-2007, 03:22 PM
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I get SB 89%, BB 7.8% for the NE (edge 0%). What did I do wrong? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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Finnisher - for the NE are you just running ranges back and forth in SNGPT? I've been looking for an easier way to get to these.

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Ya just back and forth but with a value between the previous and new %.
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