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Old 05-12-2007, 08:27 PM
braminc braminc is offline
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Default 60s - another very silly preflop question TT

fold or call? i think im too deep to push. raise to 1k? im lost here... im guessing just call but it seems weak

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t60/t120
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t2810
hero: t3255
CO: t1683
Button: t2200
SB: t2337
BB: t1215

Pre-flop: (6 players) hero is UTG+1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to t420</font>, hero??
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Old 05-12-2007, 08:45 PM
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Default Re: 60s - another very silly preflop question TT

I like a call here. Depends somewhat on opponent. Calling is never gonna be awful here though if you can play postflop.

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Old 05-12-2007, 09:56 PM
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Default Re: 60s - another very silly preflop question TT

You definitely aren't too deep to push. Picking up the 600 in the pot adds ~20% to your stack. I'd push if I knew UTG was raising some marginal hands there and is capable of folding to shoves.

Without that rare situation I like a call.
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Old 05-12-2007, 10:03 PM
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Default Re: 60s - another very silly preflop question TT

I call if I think he'll c-bet. I shove if I think he'll fold AKs or JJ. I shove if I think he'll call with 55. It depends on the player and it's pretty hard to decide on the correct action with no read at all.
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Old 05-12-2007, 10:09 PM
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Default Re: 60s - another very silly preflop question TT

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I call if I think he'll c-bet. I shove if I think he'll fold AKs or JJ. I shove if I think he'll call with 55. It depends on the player and it's pretty hard to decide on the correct action with no read at all.

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You forgot you'd fold if his range is 99+, AK
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Old 05-12-2007, 10:26 PM
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Default Re: 60s - another very silly preflop question TT

I'd probably just fold unless I knew UTG was opening wide here. I hate having 4 left to act behind us when we call. If one shoves UTG won't be folding and we'll be in a crappy spot.
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Old 05-12-2007, 10:52 PM
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Default Re: 60s - another very silly preflop question TT

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I call if I think he'll c-bet. I shove if I think he'll fold AKs or JJ. I shove if I think he'll call with 55. It depends on the player and it's pretty hard to decide on the correct action with no read at all.

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6 handed the chances of someone folding AKs or JJ if you push are incredibly slim.

I think I like a fold in this spot unless villian is laggy, then I push. TT is tough to play postflop (at least for me)
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Old 05-12-2007, 11:33 PM
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Default Re: 60s - another very silly preflop question TT

Seems like a good question. What's silly about it?

IMO, this is one of those rare spots where pushing/calling/folding are all real close and the answer depends mostly on your style of play and any reads on the table.
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Old 05-12-2007, 11:43 PM
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fold or call? i think im too deep to push. raise to 1k? im lost here... im guessing just call but it seems weak

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t60/t120
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t2810
hero: t3255
CO: t1683
Button: t2200
SB: t2337
BB: t1215

Pre-flop: (6 players) hero is UTG+1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to t420</font>, hero??

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Reads on this player's raising activity/habits is like, kinda important here...
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Old 05-12-2007, 11:49 PM
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Default Re: 60s - another very silly preflop question TT

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Reads on this player's raising activity/habits is like, kinda important here...

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Very true. Is this hand ever a fold though? I mean I guess it is against someone with a very narrow range, but I think even a lot of very tight players are raising AQ and AJs here, some even wider.
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