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Old 05-11-2007, 06:51 PM
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Default AQo in SB - Standard, yet awkward spot

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<font color="black">Hero (SB): $200.00</font>
BB: $219.70
UTG: $112.80
CO: $84.70
BTN: $101.40

<font color="black">Reads: </font><font color="blue">No history or stats on villain, but I'm assuming he's bad since he's playing shortstacked. Stack sizes are really akward, but hate myself if I check/fold here.

I find myself in these situations a lot and am extremely uncomfortable every time.

Thoughts?</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $7.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $26.00</font>, BB folds, BTN calls $19.00

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($54) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $30.00 planning on folding to a raise...</font>
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Old 05-11-2007, 06:54 PM
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Default Re: AQo in SB - Standard, yet awkward spot

For what it's worth, on that drawy board I think an overpair would bet more, likely a pot-sized bet. Your bet *looks* like a feeler bet to me.
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Old 05-11-2007, 07:02 PM
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Default Re: AQo in SB - Standard, yet awkward spot

Options here seem to be bet/fold, bet/call, chk/fold, CRAI, or open push. None seem good...

So do we pick the giant douche or the turd sandwich?
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Old 05-11-2007, 07:06 PM
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Default Re: AQo in SB - Standard, yet awkward spot

Check on this board
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Old 05-11-2007, 07:26 PM
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Default Re: AQo in SB - Standard, yet awkward spot

All the time or like 75% of the time? I feel like I'm being way too straight forward if I chk/fold in this situation all the time...
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Old 05-11-2007, 07:28 PM
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For what it's worth, on that drawy board I think an overpair would bet more, likely a pot-sized bet. Your bet *looks* like a feeler bet to me.

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Also, with stack sizes, I probably bet about this amount on the flop with made hands/OP's. He has $75 behind on the flop.
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Old 05-12-2007, 11:08 AM
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Default Re: AQo in SB - Standard, yet awkward spot

Oh, I don't like any of it now that I realise it's against a short stack. I'd call preflop and c/f the flop. And I def don't like the postflop line against a short stack. I'd just bet 35-40 and call a push once I got to the flop like this.
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Old 05-12-2007, 12:05 PM
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Oh, I don't like any of it now that I realise it's against a short stack. I'd call preflop and c/f the flop.

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This is something that's always confused me. We generally avoid hands pf that rely on implied odds against shortstacks (say, mid-SCs). So shouldn't the converse be true - that we should push harder pf with hands that pay off implied odds like AQo?
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Old 05-12-2007, 12:18 PM
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Default Re: AQo in SB - Standard, yet awkward spot

tbh, I think you're close to being priced in if he shoves (which is essentially a minraise)
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Old 05-12-2007, 12:36 PM
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Default Re: AQo in SB - Standard, yet awkward spot

Bet/fold flop is pretty gross IMO. You only need 20 % equity to call a push from the ss.

If villain was shorter, like 25 BB and down, I like the 3-bet with a hand like AQ (pushing every flop, of course).
But with a 50 BB ss a preflop 3-bet just blocks your own c-bet.

Just call preflop. Fold to a serious cbet on this board. Float/raise other boards.

As played. I think I check-fold without a read. The board is as crappy as the stack-sizes.
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