25NL - Double Gutter Turns Into Tough River Decision

[AAmucked]

For some reason my hand history for this hasn't shown up. Six handed on FTP, no reads on villain, hasn't done anything completely donkish thus far. Villain has 17ish, I cover.

UTG+1 limps, Button limps, I complete in SB with Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Villain checks from the BB.

Flop comes 10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I bet 85 into a 1 dollar pot. Leading with a draw into four people, in this subpar? I get two callers, one from the Villain in the SB and MP.

Turn is the A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

I check, SB bets 75 cents into a 4ish pot. MP folds and I call.

River is the Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I check, he bets slightly over the pot. Hero times down and..?

I thought the overbet seems weird. If he had J9 wouldn't he bet less for value? The turn bet kinda seemed like he wanted to blocker bet a draw, or maybe weak-bet a crappy 10. When he overbets the pot on the river it seems like he wants me to fold and maybe missed his draw. But then again maybe he hit two pair or something and is smart enough to think that I'm thinking that, but I seriously doubt it because he led 75 cents into a 4 dollar pot.

Comments on all streets welcome.

[creamfillin]

I'm wondering how you complete in the sb and get a call from the sb in the same hand.

This looks like a fold. Looks like an Ax that hit two pair.

[shoxbb6]

Flop is bad because of the flush draw. Turn is fine. River I fold, you're simply not good enough of the time to make this call profitable. He most likely has Ax of clubs or two pair.

[AAmucked]

Typo. Clearly I meant BB.

[prodonkey]

This is usually how people that have no clue about bet sizing try to get value out of their hands.. I fold without a second thought usually.