Big bluff vs. TWP

Trivial · #1 05-10-2007, 02:51 AM

Villain is GogUMagog, 19/15, pretty aggro, we don't have a ton of history but he seems to run hot against me and never folds to my pre-flop 3bets.

My thoughts: Not sure what he's cold-calling PF there but I guess I'm weighting his range towards pocket pairs, maybe suited broadways. When he donks the turn and I raise I'm expecting him to fold most of these holdings, but since he's called my bluff I've either got to make it convincing (i.e. fire the river barrel) or give up. He's got about $425 behind, so is pulling the trigger +EV ?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($1114.10)
Button ($600)
SB ($768)
BB ($425.25)
Hero ($1323.90)
MP ($723.35)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $21, 3 folds, SB calls $18, BB calls $15.

Flop: ($63) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $36, SB calls $36, BB folds.

Turn: ($135) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $87, Hero raises to $287, SB calls $200.

River: ($709) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $979.9 (All-In)

Pasterbator · #2 05-10-2007, 03:17 AM

if you're set on doing this, raise the turn smaller so the river push is more than 3/5 pot.

TheWorstPlayer · #3 05-10-2007, 10:05 AM

I think in general I'm the wrong guy to do this against and this is the wrong board on which to do this:
a) I'm a calling station
b) I could easily have a Q here
c) You're pretty much only repping a Q and I'm not a big believer
d) You could easily have missed hearts here

If you got me to lay it down, then I probably had missed hearts myself and your hand was likely good at showdown.

jkkkk · #4 05-10-2007, 10:46 AM

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lol

FionnMac · #5 05-10-2007, 11:24 AM

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If you got me to lay it down, then I probably had missed hearts myself

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Surely you'd dump hearts on the turn to that raise though..

TheWorstPlayer · #6 05-10-2007, 11:27 AM

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Surely you'd dump hearts on the turn to that raise though..

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more likely i'd push. but i might call under certain circumstances.

Jay. · #7 05-10-2007, 11:28 AM

i would def look you up here. nothing matches up. you have a hand your that confident in? rarely. much more likely to be missed hearts. without the hearts it gets more interesting.

FionnMac · #8 05-10-2007, 11:34 AM

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i would def look you up here. nothing matches up. you have a hand your that confident in? rarely. much more likely to be missed hearts. without the hearts it gets more interesting.

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wtf? how does nothing match up? how about QQ AQ KQ JQ Q-10 (thought maybe these two wouldn't raise the turn), 22, 55 etc? Sure, he could have hearts here, but why not any of the hands above? Why are people so quick to put to put people on flush draws these days? I'd need a decent queen to call here i think.

soah · #9 05-10-2007, 11:38 AM

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Why are people so quick to put to put people on flush draws these days?

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probably because it missed, otherwise they would have to find some other hands to put people on instead

jfish · #10 05-10-2007, 11:40 AM

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lol

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haha i laughed when i saw the title.