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Old 05-10-2007, 02:07 AM
Nutstylin Nutstylin is offline
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Default AA facing river shove 25NL

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $27.35
BB: $47.15
UTG: $20.25
MP: $17.05
CO: $36.35
<font color="black">Hero (BTN): $50.05</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $0.50</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.50</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls $1

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($3.35) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $0.25</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.50</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $4.75</font>, Hero calls $2.25

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($12.85) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $3</font>, Hero calls $3

<font color="black">River:</font> ($18.85) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets all-in for $11</font>, Hero...

I have nothing on this opponent... he has only been seated for 10 hands and all i know is that he has seen 5 flops, and taken down 2 pots w/out showdown.

I haven't played a hand since he sat.

Should i have pushed the flop or turn? I feel i can only get called by a better hand on a turn shove.
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Old 05-10-2007, 02:18 AM
Abelardo Abelardo is offline
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Default Re: AA facing river shove 25NL

Yuck, he probably flopped 2-pair or better, his turn bet looks weak (probably fearing AQ or KJ maybe), it's too risky to raise, still I would call he might be goofing around, you can spike some stuff as well. The river didn't bring a pair or A so I fold to his AI.
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Old 05-10-2007, 02:23 AM
Supwithbates Supwithbates is offline
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Default Re: AA facing river shove 25NL

raise more preflop
raise flop bigger
as played i guess I call but bleh I feel dirty if I let a donkey this bad stack me
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Old 05-10-2007, 02:24 AM
EDonk EDonk is offline
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Default Re: AA facing river shove 25NL

I agree to fold to the river bet, I'm not sure what I think is a good line for this situation though. Normally I think that the min bet .25 is either a monster draw that is trying to build a draw, a set, or a bluff. The only thing that makes sense here is something like AsQs to me, even a set pushing on this river doesn't make much sense.
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Old 05-10-2007, 02:49 AM
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Default Re: AA facing river shove 25NL

Yes I agree not many hands make sense, we don't have a solid read at all, so he is probably a donkey, those minbets are pretty donkish, river is def not a call but turn is marginal. This would've played different if OP raised bigger.
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Old 05-10-2007, 03:43 AM
Nutstylin Nutstylin is offline
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Default Re: AA facing river shove 25NL

While i'm stewing this over i ask in chat if he is "donking off with AK" My time bank is running down, and with about 15 seconds left he replies "call".....
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Old 05-10-2007, 03:49 AM
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Default Re: AA facing river shove 25NL

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raise more preflop
raise flop bigger
as played i guess I fold

[/ QUOTE ]
this is what i would do... what does he push on river after you've shown some decent strength, that you beat?

he could be a maniac, but until i have some stats and get to know his style, i'm folding.
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Old 05-10-2007, 05:41 AM
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Default Re: AA facing river shove 25NL

If you raise flop bigger the hand is easier to play (and more profitable). This may not seem so, but the more you play the more you will realize this. I'm not sure how aggro these games are, but I'm not playing AA this passively this hand. If I'm not 4 betting flop then I'm pushing his weak lead on turn.
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Old 05-10-2007, 05:46 AM
Nemesis69 Nemesis69 is offline
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Default Re: AA facing river shove 25NL

He calls ur reraise, so he also has a strong hand: Maybe AK, TT. I would have betted stronger on the flop and turn. How it's played I'd fold.
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Old 05-10-2007, 06:04 AM
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Default Re: AA facing river shove 25NL

Why aren't we trying to get it in on this flop? Does he smooth call with KK? maybe.. The only hand you really to need to worry about is TT. I don't think I would just call here because about half the deck is going to scare you. He's not even a full stack, i would close my eyes and 4bai this flop.
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