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Old 05-08-2007, 01:01 PM
TheFoxNL TheFoxNL is offline
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Default AK off OOP

villian just moved here and i moved here 3 orbits ago so i dont have much on the OR either
his flat call seemed strange and tricky to me

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP3 (t1430)
CO (t1175)
Button (t4790)
Hero (t6645)
BB (t10320)
UTG (t1635)
UTG+1 (t630)
MP1 (t4635)
MP2 (t2875)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t300</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t900</font>, BB calls t800, MP1 folds.

Flop: (t2100) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks.

Turn: (t2100) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t1000</font>, Hero ???

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Old 05-08-2007, 01:07 PM
TimberBee TimberBee is offline
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Default Re: AK off OOP

What's the buyin?

I bet 1500 on the flop and fold to a shove. You still have 40BB left, and in ok shape.

As played, I guess it looks strong to CR-shove the turn, but I don't expekt him to fold 77+. He could of course take a stab with AJ+, KQ etc., but would he call PF with that?

It's probably okay to give up now, but as I said, I like 1500 on flop.
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Old 05-08-2007, 01:10 PM
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Default Re: AK off OOP

Oh, I just bet close to pot on the flop and get the rest in regardless. You are either chopping, a 3-1 dog to a pp, a 4-1 favorite over Ax/Kx, or occasionally crushed by a big pp or boat. With pot odds and FE, you need to just get the money in. As played is too passive.
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Old 05-08-2007, 01:15 PM
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Default Re: AK off OOP

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What's the buyin?

I bet 1500 on the flop and fold to a shove. You still have 40BB left, and in ok shape.

As played, I guess it looks strong to CR-shove the turn, but I don't expekt him to fold 77+. He could of course take a stab with AJ+, KQ etc., but would he call PF with that?

It's probably okay to give up now, but as I said, I like 1500 on flop.

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This is bad. Once you bet 1500 on the flop, you are getting 3.1-1 to call which is your odds against QQ.

I bet like 1800 and call a push. If you are folding to a raise, make it like half pot 1000.
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Old 05-08-2007, 01:23 PM
TimberBee TimberBee is offline
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What's the buyin?

I bet 1500 on the flop and fold to a shove. You still have 40BB left, and in ok shape.

As played, I guess it looks strong to CR-shove the turn, but I don't expekt him to fold 77+. He could of course take a stab with AJ+, KQ etc., but would he call PF with that?

It's probably okay to give up now, but as I said, I like 1500 on flop.

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This is bad. Once you bet 1500 on the flop, you are getting 3.1-1 to call which is your odds against QQ.

I bet like 1800 and call a push. If you are folding to a raise, make it like half pot 1000.

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Wow, I just ran the numbers and you are absolutely right. Thought it was a lot worse than that. I guess 1100/fold or 1800/call is better then... Meh
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Old 05-08-2007, 01:54 PM
BarryLyndon BarryLyndon is offline
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How big is the tournament?
How many people left?
What's the buy-in?
See any targets?

Those should determine whether to bet ~1300 or ~2000 and then jam irregardless.
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