A9s - Preflop Question

[22pajo]

Limit: $2/$4
10 players

Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 raises</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO 3-bets</font>, 3 folds, Hero ???

With 3 others in the pot is it ok to call 2 cold here?
If someone could refresh my memory of the maths behind this decision i'd appreciate it?

[BigBadBabar]

i fold this pf

[BigBadBabar]

and i fold it when it's 2 back to me

[fretelöo]

I wouldn't limp this in the first place. Maybe raise, but that's read dependent. Def. not limp.

Seeing as you did, math is as follows: You limp, getting 1.5:1. You can expect at least one more limper or prolly SB completing, so you're talking 2:1 at the very minimum.

Now, you're getting 8:2 immediate odds, but you don't "have" an Ace anymore. You're likely hoping for 2pr or FD. Would you limp along with 32s (so you only win with a flush) on the Btn with two limpers to you and loose-passive blinds?

[22pajo]

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I wouldn't limp this in the first place. Maybe raise, but that's read dependent. Def. not limp.


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I dont usually limp this hand UTG but table had been playing loose passive, lots of multiway hands, so i limped along hoping to see a flop with several others in the pot.

I'm more concerned with the flop play.
What i'm trying to figure out is:
i'm going to flop a flush draw X% of the time so i need Ynumber of opponents. i want to know what the values for X and Y are.
anyone?

[bennyhana]

WHY ARE WE FOLDING (OR MAYBE RAISING) A9S UTG??

AM I IN THE WRONG FORUM? WTF?

Pajo, I don't know your x and y numbers off the top, but this is why I profile players. What's the table like? Any free cards given? I might call the raise, but If they are tags and it's 3 way I'm folding.

[BigBadBabar]

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WHY ARE WE FOLDING (OR MAYBE RAISING) A9S UTG??

AM I IN THE WRONG FORUM? WTF?

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benny, could you be any less helpful?

[ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S]

i never fold this preflop.

i raise/call like 2/98 i think at a standard table.

and i think i fold when its 2 back to me.

[OziBattler]

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I dont usually limp this hand UTG but table had been playing loose passive, lots of multiway hands, so i limped along hoping to see a flop with several others in the pot.

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naturally table conditions dictate my play here but under these conditions im totally ok with limping here and folding when it is two back.

[Neku]

According to Matthew Hilger ('Odds &amp; probabilities'), your odds to flop a flush with two suited hole cards are 124:1. Odds of flopping a flush draw: 8:1.