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Old 05-08-2007, 12:36 AM
Xhad Xhad is offline
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Default [.5/1] 3 Calls, 3 Reasons, 1 hand

So I peel, then I slowplay, then I decide I'm at best a coinflip (EDIT: No I was not afraid of the bd flush) and just call again. Thoughts?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (8 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (5 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9 BB
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Old 05-08-2007, 12:41 AM
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Default Re: [.5/1] 3 Calls, 3 Reasons, 1 hand

The flop call is very thin. In fact, I don't like it.

You need around 5 outs to peel, I don't think you got em.
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Old 05-08-2007, 12:49 AM
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Default Re: [.5/1] 3 Calls, 3 Reasons, 1 hand

i think you have to raise one of the two big streets.
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Old 05-08-2007, 12:51 AM
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Default Re: [.5/1] 3 Calls, 3 Reasons, 1 hand

i can't see playing this hand past the flop unless we have some info ...

side note ... preflop is a little light (no?)
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Old 05-08-2007, 12:55 AM
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Default Re: [.5/1] 3 Calls, 3 Reasons, 1 hand

i mean preflop is a tiny bit light if we do it every time, but we raise ats utg so raising a7s utg can't be more than a few percentage points worse and doing it some of the time can't be a leak. also it could depend on the table being very foldy pf.
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Old 05-08-2007, 12:59 AM
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-My PFR at my peak was kinda high (13%), and this is right on the cusp, so yeah it could be wrong. I was actually surprised to get HU vs. a 3bettor as this was a pretty good table.
-Flop, I dunno. I figured being in position and implied odds made up for the fact that my outs aren't always good.
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Old 05-08-2007, 01:03 AM
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-My PFR at my peak was kinda high (13%), and this is right on the cusp, so yeah it could be wrong. I was actually surprised to get HU vs. a 3bettor as this was a pretty good table.
-Flop, I dunno. I figured being in position and implied odds made up for the fact that my outs aren't always good.

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my PFR is the same ... I don't think I've ever raise it (thought I 3bet an OR from HJ and CO with it from CO or BTN)
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Old 05-08-2007, 01:05 AM
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How late do you raise it (8 handed if you haven't already noticed)?
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Old 05-08-2007, 01:05 AM
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The flop call is very thin. In fact, I don't like it.

You need around 5 outs to peel, I don't think you got em.

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I think on the flop we can give OP 4 outs HU...He can make up 1.5-2 bets on the turn and river, maybe more if he raises a later street. At this point I'm putting Villain on TT-QQ, AK, maybe KK, AA....

Villain's action on the turn says you're probably behind KK, AK, maybe even AA. TT, JJ, QQ probably slow down on the turn or river, so you're more behind than ahead on the turn and river me thinks.

I guess I play it the same and SD as cheap as poss.
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Old 05-08-2007, 01:18 AM
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How late do you raise it (8 handed if you haven't already noticed)?

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since so may pots are now HU or 3way ... or bet and raised heads-up - I've started to stay away from weak aces (unless it's against an aggressive player in late position)

I can see a raise from UTG on a really tight table (with a bunch of TOP TEN wimps [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]) to steal the blinds

if the table is loose aggressive I still stay away from it in EP ... loose passive (do they exist?)

in general I would probably start to think about raising in MP somewhere - depending on the blinds and late position players in that game and my current history at that table

as BBB said: we are raising AT - so A7 can be too off ...

it was probably a judgement thing - at that time ...
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