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Old 05-07-2007, 05:14 PM
rh2020 rh2020 is offline
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Default NL10 - Villain cbets on A high flop

Villain is 19/13/7. What does villain normally hold here?

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $1.85
UTG+1: $1.90
MP1: $9.55
MP2: $2.63
MP3: $5.30
Hero: $10.02
Button: $9.90
SB: $4.68
BB: $10.93

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is CO with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP3 raises to $0.4</font>, Hero calls, Button calls, 2 folds, MP1 calls.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($1.75, 4 players)
MP1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP3 bets $1.2</font>, Hero ?
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Old 05-07-2007, 05:19 PM
Landlord79 Landlord79 is offline
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Default Re: NL10 - Villain cbets on A high flop

Against that many callers, he's got an Ace 90% of the time or at least KK or QQ and now puking. Either way your 8s are no good here except for a bluff, dump em!
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Old 05-07-2007, 05:21 PM
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Default Re: NL10 - Villain cbets on A high flop

Fold. When facing a preflop raiser on a 4way A hi flop and he bets, I believe him. More often than not it's Ax.
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Old 05-07-2007, 06:15 PM
KurtSF KurtSF is offline
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Default Re: NL10 - Villain cbets on A high flop

Did you see that he was a 19/13/7?

His c-bet is automatic and means almost nothing. He raises with 13% of hands, so I'd put his range at AJo+, ATs+, 44+, 4d5d+, QdTd+.

You can still fold as you are still behind his range.

That's if these stats are good. Over how many hands?
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Old 05-07-2007, 06:16 PM
Das Budrick Das Budrick is offline
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Default Re: NL10 - Villain cbets on A high flop

I would fold here
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Old 05-07-2007, 06:19 PM
jhill3535 jhill3535 is offline
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Default Re: NL10 - Villain cbets on A high flop

It can't be over that many hands. I don't think I have ever seen and AF that high after more than 100 hands. I mean that is like calling once for every nine actions or something like that.
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Old 05-07-2007, 06:40 PM
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Default Re: NL10 - Villain cbets on A high flop

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Did you see that he was a 19/13/7?


[/ QUOTE ] The 7 AF could mean he's very aggressive, or it could mean he only bets when he's got it and folds the rest. Is there still confusion over how this is calculated? As long as he only bets/raises/checks/folds his aggression factor will be infinite. Only calling lowers the aggression.
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Old 05-07-2007, 07:36 PM
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Default Re: NL10 - Villain cbets on A high flop

You still have 2 players left to act as well. Easy fold
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Old 05-07-2007, 08:25 PM
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Default Re: NL10 - Villain cbets on A high flop

He is not very confident as placing a small bet and is not costing much to pay and see at least another card. As is a downcard game unlike stud hi only you have to think the other two 8s are in the deck so see his cheap bet and do try to make either 2 pairs or 3 8s by the end of the hand
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Old 05-08-2007, 09:24 AM
CaptVimes CaptVimes is offline
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Default Re: NL10 - Villain cbets on A high flop

Grunch

While he might not have the A here, which I would actually give him credit for betting into 3 people, one of the other two might. You don't want to get stuck in the middle of a raising war. This is an easy fold mostly because there are two people to act after you and you are not drawing to anything usefull. If you are going to call BS on someone wait until you get a heads up situation.
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