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Old 05-07-2007, 04:29 PM
spacegravy spacegravy is offline
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Default 16- hand vs twisted echo

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t100 (7 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1585)
UTG+1 (t1205)
MP1 (t5215)
CO (t1760)
Button (t1265)
SB (t855)
Hero (t1615)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls t100, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="red">Button raises to t300</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, <font color="gray">Hero folds</font>

Button is twistedecho i think he's making this raise with a very specific range. Thoughts?
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Old 05-07-2007, 04:31 PM
Kevin8423 Kevin8423 is offline
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Default Re: 16- hand vs twisted echo

I like the fold, youre never better than flipping and can easily be dominated. Much better spots will come after this.
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Old 05-07-2007, 04:40 PM
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Default Re: 16- hand vs twisted echo

Nobody like resteal here? I'd be much more inclined to resteal against a known good player.
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Old 05-07-2007, 04:41 PM
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Default Re: 16- hand vs twisted echo

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Nobody like resteal here? I'd be much more inclined to resteal against a known good player.

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I wouldn't, they are raising a much stronger range here so you're way more likely to be called and dominated. Against a random who doesn't know what they are doing they can be raising way wider with garbage hands.
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Old 05-07-2007, 04:44 PM
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Default Re: 16- hand vs twisted echo

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Nobody like resteal here? I'd be much more inclined to resteal against a known good player.

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I know twisted echo is a 2p2er and i presume is quite useful (never played with him before), this raise is mighty susipicious. Hands like ak,aq,qq-99 i would have thought he would shove with his stack.

I like the fold he shows aa and kk here alot i think. I don't know if i could do it in-game as such. My default is to shove against an unknown.
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Old 05-07-2007, 04:49 PM
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Default Re: 16- hand vs twisted echo

this is a super easy push, his range has opened a little cuz there is some more dead calling money already in the pot, folding here is terrible IMO
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Old 05-07-2007, 04:51 PM
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Default Re: 16- hand vs twisted echo

because of his raise size isn't this KK+ always? AK would shove PF.
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Old 05-07-2007, 05:00 PM
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Default Re: 16- hand vs twisted echo

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because of his raise size isn't this KK+ always? AK would shove PF.

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Yes. Even if he does this with QQ you're completely dominated. He shouldn't be doing anything but shoving any other playable hand.
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Old 05-07-2007, 05:18 PM
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this is a super easy FOLD

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FYP, i have two hands here [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 05-07-2007, 05:36 PM
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Default Re: 16- hand vs twisted echo

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this is a super easy push, his range has opened a little cuz there is some more dead calling money already in the pot

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His raise after a limper seems too small for his range to open too much IMO.
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