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Old 05-06-2007, 07:32 PM
Marmor Marmor is offline
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Default FTP 50NL: AA - Pot Control - Smart, dumb or retarted?

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Hero ($72.05)</font>
CO ($52.25)
Button ($36.20)
SB ($50.25)
BB ($66.15)
<font color="#C00000">UTG ($42.80)</font>

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1.75</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG calls $4.25.

Flop: ($12.75) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $8</font>, Hero calls $8.

Turn: ($28.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: ($28.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $20</font>, Hero calls $20.

Final Pot: $68.75

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What are your thoughts on my passive line in this hand? The
flop donk of an unknown generally raises a lot of question to me and esp. on this kind of flop - so I took this line.
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Old 05-06-2007, 07:34 PM
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Default Re: FTP 50NL: AA - Pot Control - Smart, dumb or retarted?

I think you played it ok. Horrible board
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Old 05-06-2007, 07:35 PM
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Default Re: FTP 50NL: AA - Pot Control - Smart, dumb or retarted?

This looks fine, allthough I'd consider a river reraise
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Old 05-06-2007, 07:40 PM
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Default Re: FTP 50NL: AA - Pot Control - Smart, dumb or retarted?

On this draw happy flop, it seems fine IMHO, what range do I put UTG on where this flop DOESNT help him?

Him leading the flop for 3/4 makes me agree with your line.......

though I am curious as what other posters say here
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Old 05-06-2007, 07:46 PM
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Default Re: FTP 50NL: AA - Pot Control - Smart, dumb or retarted?

what do u beat/what calls if you bet the flop or turn? That's your answer if pot control was smart.
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Old 05-06-2007, 07:46 PM
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Default Re: FTP 50NL: AA - Pot Control - Smart, dumb or retarted?

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This looks fine, allthough I'd consider a river reraise

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Why.... I see the paired board, but we are still crushed by AK,QQ,JJ,TT,a spade flush ....... and all of these would play it this way,no? ...the only hand we raise and get called that we beat is AQ/KQ.. I dont know whether I would take the chance *shrugs*
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Old 05-06-2007, 07:49 PM
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Default Re: FTP 50NL: AA - Pot Control - Smart, dumb or retarted?

I would have played it the same way.
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Old 05-06-2007, 07:55 PM
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Default Re: FTP 50NL: AA - Pot Control - Smart, dumb or retarted?

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This looks fine, allthough I'd consider a river reraise

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Why.... I see the paired board, but we are still crushed by AK,QQ,JJ,TT,a spade flush ....... and all of these would play it this way,no? ...the only hand we raise and get called that we beat is AQ/KQ.. I dont know whether I would take the chance *shrugs*

[/ QUOTE ]AK/QQ/JJ/TT would probably keep betting turn.

Given the possible flush I'd actually call this river bet, but pairing the board definately improves our hand here.
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Old 05-06-2007, 07:59 PM
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Default Re: FTP 50NL: AA - Pot Control - Smart, dumb or retarted?

I like this, but I don't do because I'm an impatient brat
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Old 05-06-2007, 10:42 PM
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Default Re: FTP 50NL: AA - Pot Control - Smart, dumb or retarted?

Good that you agree with you - good in the sense that I finally seem to learn something about NL.
Btw. he had 87 - omg.
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