10NL (9Max): KQs shoving on Flop

[Jay.Yang]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

UTG+1 ($24.45)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($10.85)</font>
<font color="#C00000">MP2 ($6.75)</font>
CO ($2.70)
Button ($0.95)
SB ($8.85)
BB ($10.95)
UTG ($6.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.5</font>, MP2 calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls $0.40.

Flop: ($1.55) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $2.4</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10.35</font>...

We are only behind with set right? And if the guy is nut flush draw, I don't give him the odds to call right?

[jhill3535]

With the money in the pot he is getting odds to call with the NFD, but that hand is very unlikely given you have the K and Q and the Jack is on the board, meaning he would have had to call you with AT-A3 preflop.

He is pot committed with any hand that raises on that flop given is stack size.

Push is okay, I don't see how you can really fold, you could just call, but I don't think there is a significant difference in pushing and calling here. Folding seems bad.

[Das Budrick]

I like this

[Dennisa]

I actually prefer pushing with 2/3rd pair and flush draw more often that top pair and a flush draw.

The way preflop went, its possible that mp2 or bb could be cold/coll calling with AK or kts. With top pair good kicker, you are ahead enought to look to play a small pot since you have enough showdown value, but when drawing you may only have 12 outs instead of 14.

Also you dont want to blow out weaker kings in this situation. When you have 2nd/3rd pair and pushing your combo, you are quite ok pushing out those weak top pairs and getting some fold equity. Again, with 2nd/3rd pair you are more often drawing to the 14 outs.

Just my 2 cents.