A223 in a 26 BB pot

TxRedMan · #1 05-05-2007, 12:17 AM

FWIW this table is full of terrible players. Average pot size was something like 15 BB's for about 100 hands.

Absolute Poker
Limit Omaha Ring game
Limit: $25/$50
5 players
Pre-flop: (5 players) TxRedMan is CO with 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, TxRedMan raises, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (8SB, 4 players)
SB bets, BB raises, UTG calls, TxRedMan 3-bets, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (10BB, 4 players)
SB checks, BB bets, UTG raises, TxRedMan 3-bets, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (22BB, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets, TxRedMan calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Results:
Final pot: 26BB

PorkPieHat · #2 05-05-2007, 01:08 AM

Normally a call preflop (I want to keep the terrible players in) but it seems your raise means nothing to them, then it's ok.

Safe to guess the flop 3 bet would be followed by turn check if the low is not made?

Turn/river are standard.

ManInArena · #3 05-05-2007, 08:37 AM

Preflop is a definite flat call, flop is even more so. Your hand is mediocre and you caught an average flop against people you categorise as lunatic fish, why in the world are you jamming the pot?
Obv turn and river aren't really up for discussion. UTG does seem a lot like A349 or something given the sudden aggressive action on the turn.

WMB · #4 05-05-2007, 10:56 AM

call flop, you have no high at this point.
turn is o.k.
ugly river, i'm not sure you're good enough here to call even with the huge pot

fishyak · #5 05-06-2007, 01:58 PM

Because the quality of your opposition is "terrible" is there a value raise on the river? 5, 8 & 9 are not likely pocket pair holdings. A duece matched with one of those is not likely either. I encountered a very similar hand and my 223 full house was good. I think there is a value raise on this river.

jcx · #6 05-06-2007, 07:08 PM

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Because the quality of your opposition is "terrible" is there a value raise on the river? 5, 8 & 9 are not likely pocket pair holdings. A duece matched with one of those is not likely either. I encountered a very similar hand and my 223 full house was good. I think there is a value raise on this river.

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OP does not have a FH. River sucks, but I think you grit your teeth and call. Decent chance UTG has 67 for a str8 and is now betting with the nuts for high on the riv (he may not have 4 bet the turn cuz his hand was vulnerable). you're prob quartered for low, but it's worth a call.

Fiasco · #7 05-07-2007, 01:56 AM

I dont think that UTG flat called two bets on the flop, and then failed to cap the flop with the nut straight on a two low two flush board. Much more likely he has A34 or something similar like A36 or 346.

jcx · #8 05-07-2007, 02:36 AM

you might be right, but he did say these players are terrible.

MaLiik · #9 05-07-2007, 07:14 AM

What is good with the hand:

+ A23 on a H/L is a good for the low

What is bad:
- No suits!
- A pair of 2's
- You only have a hand for the low!

What happens on the flop:
- Could be a made hand
- flushdraw
- Lots of action, a made hand or strong draws!

What happens on the turn?
- You hit a set on a borad that coudl have a made hand!
- Your A/3 becomes counterfited!
- A lot of action!

What hapens on the flop?
- You have a set of 2's!
- You are beat by most of the hands that could be held at the table
- Your low is 8 high!

A7, A6, A4, 27, 26, 24, 34, 36, 37, 46, 47, 67 have you beat for the low. I say you made a bad call on the river! You will not win the Low enough times against 4 other players to justify a call. The Nut straight have you beaten for the low!

jcx · #10 05-07-2007, 09:45 AM

The Nut straight have you beaten for the low!

You're right of course. Gotta stop looking at these on the back end of a 10 hour session.