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#1
05-04-2007, 08:35 AM
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99 turn decision
Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)
SB: $99.11 BB: $54.95 <font color="black">Hero (UTG): $109.25</font> CO: $331.88 BTN: $37.05 <font color="black">Reads: </font><font color="blue">Villain seems like a donk and is running at 22/9/4.5 over 60 hands..</font> <font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players) <font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $12</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $8 <font color="black">Flop:</font> ($25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">SB bets $15</font>, Hero calls $15 <font color="black">Turn:</font> ($55) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">SB bets $33</font>, Hero ? 
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#2
05-04-2007, 08:37 AM
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Re: 99 turn decision
I fold pre against this guy. His repopping range is QQ+, JJ/AK discounted.
Turn is a really easy and straightforward fold.
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#3
05-04-2007, 08:43 AM
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Re: 99 turn decision
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I fold pre against this guy. His repopping range is QQ+, JJ/AK discounted. [/ QUOTE ] This is flawed thinking. When somebody has a supertight 3-betting range then we want to loosen up our calling standards considerably. We should be calling with any pair and generally any 2 cards don't include a Queen, King, or Ace. The reason is simple. Anytime you flop 2-pair or better against somebody that holds QQ/KK/AA you will stack them. You can call 75o in this position and be profitable against these tight 3-betters.
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#4
05-04-2007, 08:44 AM
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Re: 99 turn decision
Preflop not so bad for set value only, as played fold turn, you are behind mostly.
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#5
05-04-2007, 08:45 AM
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Re: 99 turn decision
I think you might be able to justify a call preflop because of his 4.5 aggression factor, but every other street that doesn't give you a set where he bets needs to be folded.
Can you be more specific of his donkish nature?
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#6
05-04-2007, 08:52 AM
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Re: 99 turn decision
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Can you be more specific of his donkish nature? [/ QUOTE ] He would limp/call raise. How do you guys feel about the flop. Can I really fold here? At the time I thought that I could call once and hope that AK slows down on turn.
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#7
05-04-2007, 08:52 AM
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Re: 99 turn decision
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[ QUOTE ] I fold pre against this guy. His repopping range is QQ+, JJ/AK discounted. [/ QUOTE ] This is flawed thinking. When somebody has a supertight 3-betting range then we want to loosen up our calling standards considerably. We should be calling with any pair and generally any 2 cards don't include a Queen, King, or Ace. The reason is simple. Anytime you flop 2-pair or better against somebody that holds QQ/KK/AA you will stack them. You can call 75o in this position and be profitable against these tight 3-betters. [/ QUOTE ] uh, no. My thinking is 100% accurate, you need to learn some math. Hint: even if you get his stack every single time you outflop him w/ 75o, it's still not profitable to call PF.
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#8
05-04-2007, 08:59 AM
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Re: 99 turn decision
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I fold pre against this guy. His repopping range is QQ+, JJ/AK discounted. [/ QUOTE ] This is flawed thinking. When somebody has a supertight 3-betting range then we want to loosen up our calling standards considerably. We should be calling with any pair and generally any 2 cards don't include a Queen, King, or Ace. The reason is simple. Anytime you flop 2-pair or better against somebody that holds QQ/KK/AA you will stack them. You can call 75o in this position and be profitable against these tight 3-betters. [/ QUOTE ] uh, no. My thinking is 100% accurate, you need to learn some math. Hint: even if you get his stack every single time you outflop him w/ 75o, it's still not profitable to call PF. [/ QUOTE ] But you can certainly play for set value very thinly if theyve a narrow 3bet range, agree or disagree?? Normally i would want implied odds of 15-1 + for calling with a PPbut against a tight reraiser 10-1 is fine??
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#9
05-04-2007, 09:07 AM
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Re: 99 turn decision
Disagree. Assuming his repopping range is QQ+ (if it includes JJ/AK, it's even worse). About 22% an A flops and KK won't stack off. About 40% either an A/K flops and QQ won't stack off. Never mind set over set situations which don't come up infrequently.
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