2/4: Two pair with crappy turn, push river anyway?

[oyvindgee]

Villain is a good regular. Not any history I can remember.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (4 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

BB ($100.40)
UTG ($612.70)
Hero ($640.75)
SB ($515.30)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $14</font>, Hero calls $14, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($34) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $22</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $86</font>, UTG calls $64.

Turn: ($206) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $142</font>, UTG calls $142.

River: ($490) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero?

About 390 left.

[Fonkey123]

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[JrJordan]

Doesn't look like he has a set at this point, would've playedb back at some point. That leaves KQ/AK/AA. I doubt a good regular calls with the latter two since there's no missed draw you can rep that would bluff here so I'm fine checking it through.

[Praetor]

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Doesn't look like he has a set at this point, would've playedb back at some point. That leaves KQ/AK/AA. I doubt a good regular calls with the latter two since there's no missed draw you can rep that would bluff here so I'm fine checking it through.

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uh diamonds?

[futuredoc85]

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Doesn't look like he has a set at this point, would've playedb back at some point. That leaves KQ/AK/AA. I doubt a good regular calls with the latter two since there's no missed draw you can rep that would bluff here so I'm fine checking it through.

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uh diamonds?

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and QT, if theres any chance he got here w/ AA/AK i think shoving may get looked up often enough by worse.

[ChrisV]

I'm with JrJordan, I don't think you get value from AK/AA here. You could try betting like 150 but it's a dangerous game, you're going to puke if he moves in.

[JrJordan]

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uh diamonds?

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I'm a moron.

But I still like checking it through. I tend to avoid bluffing the missed draws on broadway boards like these against good players. It just seems too likely that this board hits him in some way and therefore a big river bet like this is asking for a call, hence a value bet instead of a bluff. I may be leveling myself though.

[Riverrun]

i feel like if he hit 2pair or has a set on turn he'd bet or c/r ai thinking you were on a draw. at that point i'm thinking he has nfd (maybe) or AA or AK so i'm def. betting river, prolly shoving as if i missed the flush.

if he slowplayed a set/bigger 2 pair, break something.

[futuredoc85]

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I'm with JrJordan, I don't think you get value from AK/AA here. You could try betting like 150 but it's a dangerous game, you're going to puke if he moves in.

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i kind of think shoving and checking are both better than a small bet here. If we're V-betting we're repping a busted draw so id push or check. its really thin and looking again i think he may have c/r turn with a lot of the hands we are looking for value from here so check may be ok.

[Riverrun]

i'd only go for the small bet if stack sizes were much bigger so that i could induce bluff push if he missed the flush.