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#1
05-02-2007, 11:54 PM
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LC: Sngpt says push but does it understand ICM?
SNGPT says shove atc here but does that really make since because blinds are gonna hit shorty next. I understand sngpt well but icm not to much so help would be nice. thanks.
PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t400 with t25 antes (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com CO (t3380) Button (t1320) Hero (t2170) BB (t6630) Preflop: Hero is in SB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero ? 
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#2
05-03-2007, 12:28 AM
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Re: LC: Sngpt says push but does it understand ICM?
sngpt does not say push here.
also sngpt is just a fancy icm calculator. they are the same thing.
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#3
05-03-2007, 12:51 AM
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Re: LC: Sngpt says push but does it understand ICM?
Did you just ask if sng power tools understands icm? What do you think it does?
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#5
05-03-2007, 02:39 AM
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Re: LC: Sngpt says push but does it understand ICM?
Depends on big stacks calling range. If he is reasonably tight its an easy push. If he puts you on any two he is in position to spite call you with a big range. If he is calling 25%+ this is a fold.
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#6
05-03-2007, 03:50 AM
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Re: LC: Sngpt says push but does it understand ICM?
Wow, a ZPM sighting.
Where have you been hiding man?
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#7
05-03-2007, 04:21 AM
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Re: LC: Sngpt says push but does it understand ICM?
title made me lol
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#8
05-03-2007, 09:18 AM
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Re: LC: Sngpt says push but does it understand ICM?
ICM only analyzes in a vacuum. if CO had 400 chips (all in next hand) and button had the difference in chips, it would still be a push here, even though you might want to fold cuz BB next hand is all in.
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#9
05-03-2007, 09:25 AM
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Re: LC: Sngpt says push but does it understand ICM?
SNGPT says is equal EV pushing or folding here...but it is certainly wrong because he knows nothing about ICM...he gave me good advice on my last holiday though... [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
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#10
05-03-2007, 09:27 AM
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Re: LC: Sngpt says push but does it understand ICM?
SNGPT understands ICM. What it doesn't understand is how blinds force players all-in in -EV spots on average.
The reason you fold even when your expected equity (as calculated by ICM) increases from pushing, is because the other player is forced into a -$EV spot, which also improves your $EV.
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