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Old 05-02-2007, 10:27 PM
Kristian Kristian is offline
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Default 600NL: Getting clever with 97s deep.

Villain is a solid regular at 20/15/4. We are both aware that you don't need a monster to 3-bet preflop. Any comments appreciated.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

MP ($612.70)
CO ($678)
Button ($1308)
SB ($1035.48)
Hero ($1144.40)
UTG ($752.85)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $21</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $75</font>, Button calls $54.

Flop: ($153) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $120</font>, Button calls $120.

Turn: ($393) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $250</font>, Hero calls $250.

River: ($893) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button calls $863 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $1756
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Old 05-02-2007, 10:29 PM
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Default Re: 600NL: Getting clever with 97s deep.

Seems fine, too many hands beat you here
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Old 05-02-2007, 10:32 PM
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Default Re: 600NL: Getting clever with 97s deep.

i call this
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Old 05-02-2007, 10:35 PM
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Default Re: 600NL: Getting clever with 97s deep.

Looks pretty standard to me, On the river you are beat by to many hands so you got to let it go.
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Old 05-02-2007, 10:37 PM
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Default Re: 600NL: Getting clever with 97s deep.

If he is a solid regular he should have a flopped str8 / QQ here the majority of the time given the action.
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Old 05-02-2007, 10:37 PM
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Default Re: 600NL: Getting clever with 97s deep.

it's so easy for villian to bluff here on this board since we rarely have a showdownable hand and he can easily push us off a set

his turn bet leaves just enough for a PSB on the river; this is one tell that he is setting up a river bluff, rather than trying to squeeze value

i call here because from his perspective, we can almost never call and this is a great spot to bluff deepstaxed
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Old 05-02-2007, 10:41 PM
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Default Re: 600NL: Getting clever with 97s deep.

ipokeder what is his bluffing range. i.e. what calls flop and decides to bluff later. He should be pushing his strong overpairs on the flop. If he has a set I don't think he is bluffin. If he floated with something funky he freq has a Q. I like how this was played.
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Old 05-02-2007, 10:47 PM
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Default Re: 600NL: Getting clever with 97s deep.

underpairs, Axs, whatever

"he should be pushing his strong overpairs on the flop" no? 1200 deep you do not want to push KK/QQ/JJ on this flop. maybe AA, but that's still a pretty retarded way to play it imo.

he can float this flop with no outs whatsoever and still make it a +EV play, just because of the flop texture. i don't worry so much about what hand he i think he has, as how often i think he actually has a queen as compared to how often he bluffs here

not to mention we could be splitting~
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Old 05-02-2007, 10:50 PM
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Default Re: 600NL: Getting clever with 97s deep.

I didn't see this was deep. This significantly widens his range. I still think he has a Q here though unless he has the practice of turning made hands into bluffs. If he is that type of player you have a tough decision otherwise an esay fold.
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Old 05-02-2007, 11:12 PM
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Default Re: 600NL: Getting clever with 97s deep.

Why are people saying he has a Q?
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