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Old 05-01-2007, 03:22 PM
jdock99 jdock99 is offline
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Default Should American Muslims be voting for Obama or killing him?

I admit I know I do not know a lot about Islam, especially about the subtleties over definition of certain edicts, which seems to be the central debate over whether Islamic extremism is justified in the Koran or not.


However, one thing I have always believed I understood about Islam is that the crime for converting from it to another religion is death, and there is no wiggle room on this one.

Is this a correct notion or not? And if it is, does this make Obama political enemy #1 for American muslims, or does he get a slide on this one?
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Old 05-01-2007, 03:24 PM
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Default Re: Should American Muslims be voting for Obama or killing him?

Obama was never muslim. Where did you hear that he was?
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Old 05-01-2007, 03:25 PM
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Wrong forum.
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Old 05-01-2007, 03:27 PM
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Obama was never muslim. Where did you hear that he was?

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OMG His Middle name is Hussein!!! He also trained with Bin Laden in the 80s. Come on iron, get with it.
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Old 05-01-2007, 03:32 PM
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He also trained with Bin Laden in the 80s.

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I think they were roomies in college. I believe they still send each other Christmas cards.
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Old 05-01-2007, 03:34 PM
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Default Re: Should American Muslims be voting for Obama or killing him?

Wrong on every assertion you made in your OP. n1!
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Old 05-01-2007, 03:48 PM
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Default Re: Should American Muslims be voting for Obama or killing him?

According to his Wikipedia page he converted to Christianity. From what I am not sure. His parents may have not practiced any religion, but considering they gave him the middle name "Hussein" which is obviusly a Muslim name (I am not sure of the etiology of Barack) I think it would be safe to assume he was born Muslim, just as someone with the name David Cohen would be labelled Jewish even if his parents and he never practised.

Getting that out of the way, does this mean the crime for converting from Islam is not death? I admit I do not know Arabic and it is illegal to print the Koran in another language so I have never had the pleasure of reading this illustrious text. Therefore I have to rely on the words of others to elucidate this for me, so if this assumption is incorrect I would appreciate any enlightenment.
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Old 05-01-2007, 03:54 PM
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I admit I do not know Arabic and it is illegal to print the Koran in another language so I have never had the pleasure of reading this illustrious text.

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0.18 seconds worth of Googling
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Old 05-01-2007, 04:02 PM
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According to Snopes Obama denies he was Muslim and no evidence has surfaced that he was Muslim. Obama's biological father was Muslim, but he left when Obama was 2 years old. I don't know whether Islam has a tradition similar to baptism for a religion to stake their claim, but clearly Obama couldn't have gotten much of a Islamic education from his father.

I couldn't find the Wiki reference you mentioned, but Obama did convert to the United Church of Christ in the 80's. Perhaps that is what you read.
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Old 05-01-2007, 04:16 PM
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I couldn't find the Wiki reference you mentioned, but Obama did convert to the United Church of Christ in the 80's. Perhaps that is what you read.

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Let's uphold him to Christian laws then:

http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_law/


I'm sure you will find it amusing.
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