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Old 05-01-2007, 02:55 PM
thesecondnuts thesecondnuts is offline
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Live $8/$16 - Canterbury Park

Hero is dealt [6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, <font color="red">MP2 raises</font>, MP3 calls, Hero is CO and calls, Button Folds, SB folds, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop(5 players): [4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
<font color="red">UTG+1 Bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="red">MP2 raises</font>, MP3 folds, HERO...???

This was a big action flop. No flush draws. Do you think it is a good play to pounce right now and pump it up to three bets here? Or should I slow play in hopes of maybe getting three bets on the turn?

I fear a smooth call here might be suspicious, and I might give away my hand and everyone will run on the turn. Thoughts?
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Old 05-01-2007, 03:08 PM
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bus to 3town with no hesitation.
pot is huge and getting bigger.
everyone with anything is coming along and no one puts you on your hand.
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Old 05-01-2007, 03:19 PM
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I would fold pf but then again I don't play live. Are the players really bad? Just 3-bet the flop.
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Old 05-01-2007, 03:24 PM
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Most of the $8/$16 games are all very LAG. It is not unusual to see 4-5 players in pf with three bets in front of them. The problem does lie in play post flop. Most players will stay in to the flop, and maybe the turn, but it is very easy to lose them once they figure out that you actually have something.
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Old 05-01-2007, 03:25 PM
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I would fold pf but then again I don't play live. Are the players really bad? Just 3-bet the flop.

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folding this PF to a single raise in a live game with 5-6 to every flop is leaving money on the table.

online its not really playable though vs a raise, correct.

OP, raise the flop. even if no one has much of anything they'll at least call 1, and lots of cards kill action on the turn.
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Old 05-01-2007, 03:38 PM
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chino, it's 2 bets to us pf
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Old 05-01-2007, 04:38 PM
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I wouldn't 3bet. Even if someone turns top pair they're very likely to go to check call mode.

cold call, get ridiculous on the turn.


A cold 3bet will often drive out the bettor as well.
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Old 05-01-2007, 05:15 PM
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Hero have the nuts. A Bet,a call and a raise.A flopped straight is deceptive. There maybe is an over pair and maybe, two pair or a set.The raiser is to the right. A flop call and a turn raise will drive them out and give the hand away. Hero will get action with a very big edge.I would raise the flop and see what happens.
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Old 05-01-2007, 06:42 PM
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coldcall and wait for the turn is awful.

live players are bad but not so bad that they don't know that coldcall flop, smack turn means a monster.

they are calling anything here on the flop so punish them.
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Old 05-01-2007, 08:41 PM
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grunch-
PF: I fold this.
Flop: no flushes, no pairs, you have position, I'd call planning to raise the turn.
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