rank these preflop mistakes

[brick]

Assuming you only did each once, please rank these from most expensive to least expensive.

1) Loose mid-limit live game. Difficult to read player (capable of straight forward play and spazzy play) open raises from MP, Bad player cold calls, (blinds will probably come along, but sometime they will 3-bet)..... you cold call in the CO with K9s

2) 4 players call, sb folds, you raise 56s BB

3) 1 loose player limps (he will proably fold flop unless he catches some draw, overcards, might call you down with ace high at times), you raise in the dark from the CO (blinds will probably fold)

[RudeboyOi]

easy as

1
2
3

but seriously
thats the order
most to least

[private joker]

1 is much worse than 2 and 3 put together.

[RudeboyOi]

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1 is much worse than 2 and 3 put together.

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hand 1
i completely concur
coldcalling here is so bad

hand 2
i dont mind being OOP if im first to act
and anyways wed call a raise in this spot
and plus also if we hit good
no one could ever put us on 65s

hand 3
isnt that what we do anyways?
isolating loose passive fishy?

this thread looks fun
how bout these 3 situations

1) 3bet unknown MP raise with small pp in LP
2) 3bet unknown MP raise with 89s in LP
3) we raise UTG with AQo more TAGgy than LAGgy villian
3bets us in LP and we proceed to cap

[brettbrettr]

1 is def the worst, 2 I like, so 3 falls in the middle.

so yeah, one three two bad meh not bad

[HOWMANY]

132

I don't think 2 is even that bad really, raising makes it so people will draw to overcards correctly and the hand will be harder for us to play in general after the raise I think. I think 3 and 1 are pretty close in badness.

[Clover362]

I agree 1 is the worst but I think 3 is worse than 2. In hand two you're creating a big multiway pot with a hand that does ok in them, and I think you gain some bluff value with this play so it is not as expensive. The problem with hand 3 is that the guy basically call you down so you have no chance to move him off and his hand is probably better than a random hand

[jba]

OPs is 1,3,2 IMO. I dont really mind 3 though.

Rudeboy's is 3, 1, 2. three I think is really bad. you get over on AK so that is nice. assuming an A/K doesn't hit. you get over on QQ/JJ if a king hits. but this is expensive and you have to fire flop and turn.

1 I don't like much - depends on blinds I guess.

2 is kinda hot and I do it not infrequently. in the right game I always do it.

[brettbrettr]

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1) 3bet unknown MP raise with small pp in LP
2) 3bet unknown MP raise with 89s in LP
3) we raise UTG with AQo more TAGgy than LAGgy villian
3bets us in LP and we proceed to cap

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I'm not sure I like 3 at all so let's call that the worst. I don't really think this puts you in position to play the hand any easier/better/more profitably.

As far as 1 and 2 go, I'm a showdown monkey and play 1 badly. 2 I think is fun.

[Justin A]

The assumptions in #3 are silly.