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Old 05-01-2007, 11:09 AM
jdeane jdeane is offline
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Default Another ruling question: Taking back mis-called raises.

This happened in a .50/1 NLHE home cash game.

Player A (BB): $20
Player B (UTG+1): $40
Player C (CO): $40

Preflop:
Player B raises to $6, Player C calls $6, Player A re-raises all-in to $20.

Player B re-re-raises all-in to $40

The dealer thought the raise was to $28, and not $40.

Player C calls $28 & splashes the pot with her chips.

Table points out that it is $40 total, and not $28, Player C no longer wants to call.

Questions:

Since the dealer miscalled the raise amount, does Player C have the option to take her call of $28 back?

Since Player C splashed her chips into the pot already, does this change the ruling?
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Old 05-01-2007, 01:02 PM
psandman psandman is offline
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Default Re: Another ruling question: Taking back mis-called raises.

In general if the player calling has a misunderstanding of the amount necessary to call and there is no action behind them they should be able to take back there bet. Assuming that the error was pointed out promptly and her objection came promoptly I see no reason to not let her take back the bet. It would be differnt if amount that was miscalled was insignificant (it was $29 not $28)

Her splashing the pot should make no difference unless there is doubt about how much she actually put in. In this case you can easily verify the pot has the correct amount and give her back the money. Plus since you know that she started with $40 you know that if she has $12 left her splash was the $22 she claims.
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Old 05-01-2007, 02:13 PM
Taso Taso is offline
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Default Re: Another ruling question: Taking back mis-called raises.

^Bingo. If neccesary, recount the pot, and also ask players not to splash for the next time.
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Old 05-01-2007, 03:11 PM
jdeane jdeane is offline
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Default Re: Another ruling question: Taking back mis-called raises.

The solution that was given is what I suggested they do, but at this game, people don't totally have a full understanding (or care for) proper B & M etiquette/rules. The dealer was filling in for the normal dealer and didn't control the game as well as he should have.

We ended up letting Player C take her call back, then played the hand out with Player A (all-in) vs. Player B. The stack sizes were not exactly what I posted, but they trusted (?) that Player C put the full "call" into the pot and did not count it.
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